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The implication by Elder Gilbert is misleading at best.
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Not True (Once Again): Cougarboard said Ryan Smith's contribution led to Coach Young's high salary
BYUFootballRocks1
Playmaker
Oct 23, 7:18pm
lol. “Funded from athletics and athletics revenue.” Yeah, which get their money from large donors
RdF3
Oct 23, 7:19pm
So you're going to spread the same rumor when you don't know that? Bring your receipts...
BYUFootballRocks1
Oct 23, 7:21pm
Haha this is comical. This isn’t some secret. It’s common knowledge.
RdF3
Oct 23, 7:23pm
I'll take the truth over "common knowledge" any day of the week -
BYUFootballRocks1
Oct 23, 7:25pm
So are Cougar Club donations outside money????
GangstaLean
Oct 23, 9:38pm
bro
JOPE
9:31am
"not funded by donors" - "no outside money" - can't get any clearer than that...
BYUFootballRocks1
Oct 23, 7:23pm
Ignore. This is the same guy who claims that tithing funds support BYU athletics, even though the Church says
Conan
Oct 23, 8:03pm
Does tithing support BYU?
Baron
Oct 23, 8:14pm
Yes but the athletic department receives zero money from tithing funds. It’s
Big Daddy D
Oct 23, 9:41pm
Some university's have outside donor groups that pay part of the salary. Either
cougarfann888
Oct 23, 10:58pm
RE: "not funded by donors" - "no outside money" - can't get any clearer than
Undefeated
Oct 23, 11:41pm
Don't they get revenue from things like merch sales, ticket sales, concessions,
boctabulous
Oct 23, 8:58pm
Prior to joining the Big12 outside donors was the largest revenue stream for…
icecougar
Oct 23, 10:51pm
I
pappabear246
1:10am
Wasn't there something called "coach's circle?" Is that not a thing anymore
yahtzee
Oct 23, 7:21pm
Daily Universe Article discusses "Coach's Circle"
stan
Oct 23, 11:37pm
hate to break it to Elder Gilbert, but that hasn't been true for over 20 years,
g$
Oct 23, 7:22pm
Prove it - you're basically saying he's wrong when he's accountable for the purse...
BYUFootballRocks1
Oct 23, 7:24pm
The AD purse is filled by donors - there are even plaques that honor the biggest
oxcoug
Oct 23, 7:28pm
I assume he meant AD money (that includes donations)
Squeegee
Oct 23, 7:36pm
that is only sort of true, coaches circle donations only pays for coaches
g$
Oct 23, 7:42pm
Very true
stoils
Oct 23, 8:32pm
He only said that coaching decisions are under the control of the AD and not some donor
Skeptical Optimist
Oct 23, 7:51pm
Read this article from 2016
g$
Oct 23, 7:34pm
As someone that is closely related to a member of the coaches circle, you could
indocoug
Oct 23, 8:31pm
This is how I’ve assumed it worked.
conetah
12:02am
What Clark said is misleading.
coventry94
11:53am
This is true. I know Coaches Circle guys who contribute to coaches' salaries.
AZ Coug
Oct 23, 8:07pm
And why would it bad if it does come from donors? Granted, if it is then they
Nittany Cougar
Oct 23, 8:12pm
It’s definitely not bad. Elder Gilbert is misinformed and/or misspoken
Saxa
Oct 23, 8:26pm
How could the man ultimately responsible for BYU's athletic budget be "misinformed"?
BYUFootballRocks1
Oct 23, 9:44pm
There are people in this thread who donate to the coaches circle to pay coaching salaries
Skeptical Optimist
6:38am
So they put other AD money to KY’s salary and Ryan Smith funded the
DieHarder
Oct 23, 7:23pm
You realize money is fungible, right?
sethj250
Oct 23, 7:24pm
Coaches “salary” what about other compensation and who cares either way.
Baron
Oct 23, 7:24pm
What do you think the coaches circle donations go to?
Skeptical Optimist
Oct 23, 7:27pm
I'll repeat, Elder Gilbert said flat out that coaches salaries don't come from "outside money"
BYUFootballRocks1
Oct 23, 7:29pm
Here is an article saying the cougar club donations goes to coach’s salaries
Baron
Oct 23, 7:31pm
Nothing wrong with that, but the suggestion then is that that BYU & Smith funneled money...
BYUFootballRocks1
Oct 23, 7:38pm
Funneled money? What? I guarantee Smith’s donations enabled the hiring of Kyle.
Baron
Oct 23, 7:39pm
Nope. BYU/The church is well known for paying top money for their employees.
fredetteaboutit13
Oct 23, 11:14pm
I don’t think that means what you think it means
Skeptical Optimist
Oct 23, 7:32pm
By funneled I mean the implication Smith gave big money to Cougarclub with the intent
BYUFootballRocks1
Oct 23, 7:40pm
You clearly have no idea what you are talking about, 10 min. of research on the
g$
Oct 23, 7:44pm
I know a good deal about what I'm talking about. The board claimed Ryan Smith was the
BYUFootballRocks1
Oct 23, 8:03pm
Ryan is just one of the big donors. There are a few of them.
AZ Coug
Oct 23, 8:15pm
RE: I know a good deal about what I'm talking about. The board claimed Ryan
RGGeemer
Oct 23, 9:21pm
That’s not what he said.
Skeptical Optimist
Oct 23, 7:46pm
“It can’t be true, because the guy who said otherwise is infallible”
CommodoreCoug
Oct 23, 7:59pm
All money is fungible and it all gets moved around the entire economy every day
Gustav
Oct 23, 8:05pm
I’m gonna be honest, I know more than Elder Gilbert
TCuz
Oct 23, 7:33pm
I don't know what to tell you
YSMACK
Oct 23, 7:33pm
That’s different than hiring them. Goes to a pool of funds. Some donors recently have claimed outsized roles in funding
goodbbetterbestBYU
Oct 23, 11:29pm
I don't think it was the donors making the claims, but rather others making bad assumptions.
CalGTR
12:37am
Man I’ll really blow your mind if I explain to you how tithing in fact does subsidize byu athletics too.
RdF3
Oct 23, 7:42pm
That's not true, Elder Gilbert said no core tithing funds are used for BYU sports -
BYUFootballRocks1
Oct 23, 7:45pm
Okay fine you convinced me. Here’s how it works
RdF3
Oct 23, 7:50pm
Yeah, but that is assuming the number of students would decrease
The Chief
Oct 23, 9:13pm
Good points
RdF3
Oct 23, 9:28pm
The same athletics department that regularly asks for donations?
Corn Pop
Oct 23, 8:05pm
It's well known and has been for years that the athletic department's budget for
RenoCoug
Oct 23, 8:09pm
The implication by Elder Gilbert is misleading at best.
coolblue
7:10am
Yes, CG seems to be playing a semantical dodging game here.
TheWanderer
9:56am
RE: Yes, CG seems to be playing a semantical dodging game here.
Undefeated
10:13am
And the thing is here: CG does not even need to be coy.
TheWanderer
10:31am
Safe to assume all CB rumors are false until proven otherwise.
ninja math
Oct 23, 9:13pm
It is not a CB rumor. It is from a national reporter.
spidercoug
Oct 23, 9:21pm
Yes, a reporter, we remember, with no sourcing, & that assumption became CB's assumption
BYUFootballRocks1
Oct 23, 9:41pm
I've never seen anyone so passionate about the silliest things. Nice job! I
spidercoug
Oct 23, 9:49pm
Ah, yes, the ol’ “journalists with sources are just making stuff up” bit
CommodoreCoug
Oct 23, 10:27pm
It's technically true because the donations cycle through the AD first but Clark
OKchief
Oct 23, 9:26pm
He’s not using semantics to misrepresent. There’s a material difference between
blue13
Oct 23, 11:40pm
Reese does not report to Gilbert.
RugbyCoug
Oct 23, 9:42pm
OP taking L's left and right in this thread 😬
MaximusMeridius
Oct 23, 10:52pm
This is not correct!
ghettomagic
Oct 23, 11:05pm
I believe the main point is that byu make choice and hires. Coaches funded
goodbbetterbestBYU
Oct 23, 11:09pm
Private donations are a large part of the revenue stream for BYU’s athletic dept
icecougar
Oct 23, 11:29pm
It's not that complicated, folks. Of course, we have some very generous donors who contribute to the AD, and of course
CalGTR
12:14am
I haven't read the whole thread. Have people really thought Kevin had a separate
Undefeated
12:24am
I don't know what everyone thought, but it was reported as if Ryan was in the room or on the phone pledging to cover
CalGTR
12:32am
Hopefully too many people didn't think that because it's very uneducated.
Undefeated
12:37am
Kevin Young doesn’t have a separate contract with Coaches Circle, but you’re
Odysseus
6:46am
Yes, I highly doubt Ryan Smith just handed BYU a check for $X million.
TheWanderer
10:03am
I think WE all understand this, but the OP apparently doesn't.
TheLoneCougar
10:10am
When donors fund other projects, the school can pay more directly.
Thrill
12:39am
A friend in our ward used to be the
airbug
2:41am
Some universities have outside 3rd parties directly fund their coaches. All the service academies do this since they
LaserCoug
6:48am
Money is fungible.
Powerbait DPM
7:09am
Big 12 money is what makes the difference vs independence. Fun to see what BYU
GMGlenn
11:09am
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