That's not true, Elder Gilbert said no core tithing funds are used for BYU sports -

Oct 23, 2024
7:45:14pm

BYUFootballRocks1 Playmaker

He didn't address investment gains on tithing, and if that is used I don't think anyone would have a problem with that. But he didn't address it, so we're better off not speculating.

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Not True (Once Again): Cougarboard said Ryan Smith's contribution led to Coach Young's high salary

BYUFootballRocks1 Playmaker

7:18pm

lol. “Funded from athletics and athletics revenue.” Yeah, which get their money from large donors

RdF3

7:19pm

So you're going to spread the same rumor when you don't know that? Bring your receipts...

BYUFootballRocks1

7:21pm

Haha this is comical. This isn’t some secret. It’s common knowledge.

RdF3

7:23pm

I'll take the truth over "common knowledge" any day of the week -

BYUFootballRocks1

7:25pm

So are Cougar Club donations outside money????

GangstaLean

9:38pm

"not funded by donors" - "no outside money" - can't get any clearer than that...

BYUFootballRocks1

7:23pm

Ignore. This is the same guy who claims that tithing funds support BYU athletics, even though the Church says

Conan

8:03pm

Does tithing support BYU?

Baron

8:14pm

Yes but the athletic department receives zero money from tithing funds. It’s

Big Daddy D

9:41pm

Don't they get revenue from things like merch sales, ticket sales, concessions,

boctabulous

8:58pm

Wasn't there something called "coach's circle?" Is that not a thing anymore

yahtzee

7:21pm

hate to break it to Elder Gilbert, but that hasn't been true for over 20 years,

7:22pm

Prove it - you're basically saying he's wrong when he's accountable for the purse...

BYUFootballRocks1

7:24pm

The AD purse is filled by donors - there are even plaques that honor the biggest

oxcoug

7:28pm

I assume he meant AD money (that includes donations)

Squeegee

7:36pm

that is only sort of true, coaches circle donations only pays for coaches

7:42pm

Very true

stoils

8:32pm

He only said that coaching decisions are under the control of the AD and not some donor

Skeptical Optimist

7:51pm

Read this article from 2016

7:34pm

As someone that is closely related to a member of the coaches circle, you could

indocoug

8:31pm

This is true. I know Coaches Circle guys who contribute to coaches' salaries.

AZ Coug

8:07pm

And why would it bad if it does come from donors? Granted, if it is then they

Nittany Cougar

8:12pm

It’s definitely not bad. Elder Gilbert is misinformed and/or misspoken

Saxa

8:26pm

How could the man ultimately responsible for BYU's athletic budget be "misinformed"?

BYUFootballRocks1

9:44pm

So they put other AD money to KY’s salary and Ryan Smith funded the

DieHarder

7:23pm

You realize money is fungible, right?

sethj250

7:24pm

Coaches “salary” what about other compensation and who cares either way.

Baron

7:24pm

What do you think the coaches circle donations go to?

Skeptical Optimist

7:27pm

I'll repeat, Elder Gilbert said flat out that coaches salaries don't come from "outside money"

BYUFootballRocks1

7:29pm

Here is an article saying the cougar club donations goes to coach’s salaries

Baron

7:31pm

Nothing wrong with that, but the suggestion then is that that BYU & Smith funneled money...

BYUFootballRocks1

7:38pm

Funneled money? What? I guarantee Smith’s donations enabled the hiring of Kyle.

Baron

7:39pm

I don’t think that means what you think it means

Skeptical Optimist

7:32pm

By funneled I mean the implication Smith gave big money to Cougarclub with the intent

BYUFootballRocks1

7:40pm

You clearly have no idea what you are talking about, 10 min. of research on the

7:44pm

I know a good deal about what I'm talking about. The board claimed Ryan Smith was the

BYUFootballRocks1

8:03pm

Ryan is just one of the big donors. There are a few of them.

AZ Coug

8:15pm

RE: I know a good deal about what I'm talking about. The board claimed Ryan

RGGeemer

9:21pm

That’s not what he said.

Skeptical Optimist

7:46pm

“It can’t be true, because the guy who said otherwise is infallible”

CommodoreCoug

7:59pm

All money is fungible and it all gets moved around the entire economy every day

Gustav

8:05pm

I’m gonna be honest, I know more than Elder Gilbert

TCuz

7:33pm

I don't know what to tell you

YSMACK

7:33pm

Man I’ll really blow your mind if I explain to you how tithing in fact does subsidize byu athletics too.

RdF3

7:42pm

That's not true, Elder Gilbert said no core tithing funds are used for BYU sports -

BYUFootballRocks1

7:45pm

Okay fine you convinced me. Here’s how it works

RdF3

7:50pm

Yeah, but that is assuming the number of students would decrease

The Chief

9:13pm

Good points

RdF3

9:28pm

The same athletics department that regularly asks for donations?

Corn Pop

8:05pm

It's well known and has been for years that the athletic department's budget for

RenoCoug

8:09pm

Safe to assume all CB rumors are false until proven otherwise.

ninja math

9:13pm

It is not a CB rumor. It is from a national reporter.

spidercoug

9:21pm

Yes, a reporter, we remember, with no sourcing, & that assumption became CB's assumption

BYUFootballRocks1

9:41pm

I've never seen anyone so passionate about the silliest things. Nice job! I

spidercoug

9:49pm

Ah, yes, the ol’ “journalists with sources are just making stuff up” bit

CommodoreCoug

10:27pm

It's technically true because the donations cycle through the AD first but Clark

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