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Oct 23, 2024
8:31:58pm

indocoug All-American

As someone that is closely related to a member of the coaches circle, you could

Say they are both right. The coaches circle donations go to BYU, and then BYU pays the coaches. The check comes from one location, and that is BYU. So the money is not from "outside" in that respect.

But a large portion of the funds in the BYU bank account that go to the coach's salary is funded by the coaches circle donors.

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Not True (Once Again): Cougarboard said Ryan Smith's contribution led to Coach Young's high salary

BYUFootballRocks1 Playmaker

7:18pm

lol. “Funded from athletics and athletics revenue.” Yeah, which get their money from large donors

RdF3

7:19pm

So you're going to spread the same rumor when you don't know that? Bring your receipts...

BYUFootballRocks1

7:21pm

Haha this is comical. This isn’t some secret. It’s common knowledge.

RdF3

7:23pm

I'll take the truth over "common knowledge" any day of the week -

BYUFootballRocks1

7:25pm

So are Cougar Club donations outside money????

GangstaLean

9:38pm

"not funded by donors" - "no outside money" - can't get any clearer than that...

BYUFootballRocks1

7:23pm

Ignore. This is the same guy who claims that tithing funds support BYU athletics, even though the Church says

Conan

8:03pm

Does tithing support BYU?

Baron

8:14pm

Yes but the athletic department receives zero money from tithing funds. It’s

Big Daddy D

9:41pm

Some university's have outside donor groups that pay part of the salary. Either

cougarfann888

10:58pm

Don't they get revenue from things like merch sales, ticket sales, concessions,

boctabulous

8:58pm

Prior to joining the Big12 outside donors was the largest revenue stream for…

icecougar

10:51pm

Wasn't there something called "coach's circle?" Is that not a thing anymore

yahtzee

7:21pm

hate to break it to Elder Gilbert, but that hasn't been true for over 20 years,

g$

7:22pm

Prove it - you're basically saying he's wrong when he's accountable for the purse...

BYUFootballRocks1

7:24pm

The AD purse is filled by donors - there are even plaques that honor the biggest

oxcoug

7:28pm

I assume he meant AD money (that includes donations)

Squeegee

7:36pm

that is only sort of true, coaches circle donations only pays for coaches

g$

7:42pm

Very true

stoils

8:32pm

He only said that coaching decisions are under the control of the AD and not some donor

Skeptical Optimist

7:51pm

Read this article from 2016

g$

7:34pm

As someone that is closely related to a member of the coaches circle, you could

indocoug

8:31pm

This is true. I know Coaches Circle guys who contribute to coaches' salaries.

AZ Coug

8:07pm

And why would it bad if it does come from donors? Granted, if it is then they

8:12pm

It’s definitely not bad. Elder Gilbert is misinformed and/or misspoken

Saxa

8:26pm

How could the man ultimately responsible for BYU's athletic budget be "misinformed"?

BYUFootballRocks1

9:44pm

So they put other AD money to KY’s salary and Ryan Smith funded the

DieHarder

7:23pm

You realize money is fungible, right?

sethj250

7:24pm

Coaches “salary” what about other compensation and who cares either way.

Baron

7:24pm

What do you think the coaches circle donations go to?

Skeptical Optimist

7:27pm

I'll repeat, Elder Gilbert said flat out that coaches salaries don't come from "outside money"

BYUFootballRocks1

7:29pm

Here is an article saying the cougar club donations goes to coach’s salaries

Baron

7:31pm

Nothing wrong with that, but the suggestion then is that that BYU & Smith funneled money...

BYUFootballRocks1

7:38pm

Funneled money? What? I guarantee Smith’s donations enabled the hiring of Kyle.

Baron

7:39pm

Nope. BYU/The church is well known for paying top money for their employees.

fredetteaboutit13

11:14pm

I don’t think that means what you think it means

Skeptical Optimist

7:32pm

By funneled I mean the implication Smith gave big money to Cougarclub with the intent

BYUFootballRocks1

7:40pm

You clearly have no idea what you are talking about, 10 min. of research on the

g$

7:44pm

I know a good deal about what I'm talking about. The board claimed Ryan Smith was the

BYUFootballRocks1

8:03pm

Ryan is just one of the big donors. There are a few of them.

AZ Coug

8:15pm

RE: I know a good deal about what I'm talking about. The board claimed Ryan

RGGeemer

9:21pm

That’s not what he said.

Skeptical Optimist

7:46pm

“It can’t be true, because the guy who said otherwise is infallible”

7:59pm

All money is fungible and it all gets moved around the entire economy every day

Gustav

8:05pm

I’m gonna be honest, I know more than Elder Gilbert

TCuz

7:33pm

I don't know what to tell you

YSMACK

7:33pm

That’s different than hiring them. Goes to a pool of funds. Some donors recently have claimed outsized roles in funding

goodbbetterbestBYU

11:29pm

Man I’ll really blow your mind if I explain to you how tithing in fact does subsidize byu athletics too.

RdF3

7:42pm

That's not true, Elder Gilbert said no core tithing funds are used for BYU sports -

BYUFootballRocks1

7:45pm

Okay fine you convinced me. Here’s how it works

RdF3

7:50pm

Yeah, but that is assuming the number of students would decrease

The Chief

9:13pm

Good points

RdF3

9:28pm

The same athletics department that regularly asks for donations?

Corn Pop

8:05pm

It's well known and has been for years that the athletic department's budget for

RenoCoug

8:09pm

Safe to assume all CB rumors are false until proven otherwise.

ninja math

9:13pm

It is not a CB rumor. It is from a national reporter.

spidercoug

9:21pm

Yes, a reporter, we remember, with no sourcing, & that assumption became CB's assumption

BYUFootballRocks1

9:41pm

I've never seen anyone so passionate about the silliest things. Nice job! I

spidercoug

9:49pm

Ah, yes, the ol’ “journalists with sources are just making stuff up” bit

10:27pm

It's technically true because the donations cycle through the AD first but Clark

OKchief

9:26pm

Reese does not report to Gilbert.

RugbyCoug

9:42pm

OP taking L's left and right in this thread 😬

MaximusMeridius

10:52pm

This is not correct!

ghettomagic

11:05pm

I believe the main point is that byu make choice and hires. Coaches funded

goodbbetterbestBYU

11:09pm

Private donations are a large part of the revenue stream for BYU’s athletic dept

icecougar

11:29pm

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