And some think BYU should and could do better but it wouldn't be easy

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I don't get all the Kalani hate

Marc Spector

4/17/24 1:14pm

His floor is low, and his ceiling is low sans Covid year. Not that hard to understand.

Haysom Till

4/17/24 1:15pm

KS will be as good as the coaches he surrounds himself with. Great person & BYU guy.

Soupie

4/17/24 1:15pm

This describes LaVell as well. I love Kalani and feel good about his staff

WallaX2

4/17/24 1:19pm

You just described what every HC should be.

ManicBlue

4/17/24 1:40pm

Yes but the caveat of surrounding himself with best hasn't always been the case.

Soupie

4/17/24 2:10pm

I agree but now? I like the current staff. Calling for a wholesale change now is just stupid IMO.

ManicBlue

4/17/24 2:11pm

Yes which was my point. The hate seems to be based on a situation that no longer exists but he needs to get it done now.

Soupie

4/17/24 2:30pm

RE: Yes which was my point. The hate seems to be based on a situation that no longer exists but he needs to get it done

ManicBlue

4/17/24 3:25pm

And at least 10 who did. Whatever NBD

Soupie

4/17/24 3:26pm

So, he's like every coach. K.

Benfica1

4/17/24 1:56pm

Not at all. Great head coaches elevate the performances of those around them.

ldssdl

4/17/24 2:53pm

Why pay a head coach millions if he can't augment the performance of his

ldssdl

4/17/24 2:52pm

Kalani is not a great leader of leaders. Not really even good at it. I love most other things about him. Great dude

Blue2thebone

4/17/24 3:53pm

Nobody hates Kalani. Lots of people think BYU could easily find a better coach.

Superkid

4/17/24 1:17pm

Bingo. Giant mansion and exotic car guy (gal?) for the win

TNT

4/17/24 1:19pm

I used to think we couldn’t get better, but the way we ponied up for Young makes

Salami Karate

4/17/24 1:25pm

And some think BYU should and could do better but it wouldn't be easy

CougarMandias

4/17/24 1:37pm

Easily? Who?

ManicBlue

4/17/24 2:17pm

Nick Saban ring a bell?

JohnnyComeLately

4/17/24 4:35pm

Your first sentence is much more describable of how fans feel than is hate.

Bullrider

4/17/24 1:17pm

He's a bad coach. See: fake punting on 4th and 20. Twice.

Mitty

4/17/24 1:18pm

Serious question. Is that enough to condemn a HC(not specifically KS) for?

palangi

4/17/24 1:25pm

To me it's inexcusable. It shows a complete lack of control of the program and

Mitty

4/17/24 1:26pm

RE: To me it's inexcusable. It shows a complete lack of control of the program and

darkcoug

4/17/24 1:39pm

he is a disorganized fun and nice guy who doesnt know how to run the team

Deleted

4/17/24 1:19pm

What is kalani good at. And by good I mean better than mediocre. The only thing I am sure of is garnering support

shimmy

4/17/24 1:20pm

He probably does it because of this:

DubuMfalme

4/17/24 1:23pm

Kalani is a great ambassador and a great guy. Unfortunately they don't give us

Roy D Mercer

4/17/24 1:25pm

Lazy recruiter, bad X's and O's guy, too many poor seasons

HairyCougar

4/17/24 1:20pm

He is a lazy recruiter. Half the team is from schools an hour from campus.

TexDaddy

4/17/24 1:21pm

not a lazy recruiter. lets compare him and whitt. I've heard the pukes have a

BYURider

4/17/24 1:48pm

Kalani is an exceptional person and that goes a long way

2FarGone

4/17/24 1:21pm

So, a sweet spirit?

TexDaddy

4/17/24 1:22pm

I love Kalani. No hate here. Dude will get us into place. He just needs good

Don Carlton

4/17/24 1:24pm

People just like to hate. Always needs to be a scapegoat. I am on team Kalani.

spidercoug

4/17/24 1:24pm

But he IS a bad coach - way below average. He simply doesn't have the capacity

TeeKaa

4/17/24 1:26pm

Jay Hill is a non-starter, but you’re all in on Darrell Bevell?

Ham

4/17/24 1:26pm

We need to win. If he wins, great. If he doesn't, we need to move on.

RenoCoug

4/17/24 1:27pm

Your own description of Kalani is literally the definition of a mediocre HC. The

TheMediator

4/17/24 1:28pm

No hate here, but the trend since 2020 is obvious.

HuskerFan2

4/17/24 1:28pm

You don't think SOS could have something to do with that trend (especially 2020

RGGeemer

4/17/24 1:52pm

Perhaps. But if BYU only wins 3-5 games in 2024 is SOS going to be the main thing that fans are discussing?

HuskerFan2

4/17/24 2:05pm

We'll win 6+

RGGeemer

4/17/24 2:10pm

I hope you're right.

HuskerFan2

4/17/24 2:14pm

Good dude that just doesn’t win enough games. That’s the bottom line.

Squirt

4/17/24 1:32pm

I like him but I think he makes bad decisions and takes too long to correct them

AltTabbins

4/17/24 1:35pm

If TNT hears "we will have to watch the film" one more time......aiieeeeeeeeeeee

TNT

4/17/24 1:36pm

First fallacy: People hate Kalani. Nobody hates Kalani that I know of. Nobody

kimdaddy35

4/17/24 1:40pm

THIS^^^

TheMediator

4/17/24 4:14pm

It’s an important season for him

I'mBatman

4/17/24 1:41pm

We lost four games by at least 4 TDs last year - 3 of which should have

Jesse Pinkman

4/17/24 1:43pm

Those hurt. Just blown off of the field

TNT

4/17/24 1:44pm

TCU and Iowa State were completely inexcusable. Then blowing a multi score lead

Kajdin

4/17/24 1:46pm

2020-2022 was a really good stretch

RGGeemer

4/17/24 1:51pm

2022 was not good. We beat Baylor (overrated) and it was pretty much downhill

SoBlueitHurts

4/17/24 2:03pm

It has been hard to get back on the Kalani train since that Liberty 2022 loss. WV 2023 was also very hard to take. Among

Yllage Vidiot

4/17/24 7:00pm

20 was against depleted high schools. Zero credit for that year.

TeeKaa

4/17/24 2:13pm

Like Navy, Houston, UCF, etc?

RGGeemer

4/17/24 2:29pm

Three teams that combined to go 12-17? Yes

SoBlueitHurts

4/17/24 2:48pm

UCF was very good that year, certainly not a 'depleted high school team'.

RGGeemer

4/17/24 2:55pm

I think the point is that BYU played no P5 teams that year. It was a complete G5

BYUfannonLDS

4/17/24 3:31pm

Mediocre including those. terrible without them. I enjoyed 2020, but it was not

SoBlueitHurts

4/17/24 4:06pm

Agreed. It was a weak schedule

BYUfannonLDS

4/17/24 4:21pm

6-4 is not "very good" and Houston was below average

SoBlueitHurts

4/17/24 4:02pm

Names mean nothing

TeeKaa

4/17/24 3:29pm

CB is full of morons. It's easy to scapegoat a coach or player than to delve

Benfica1

4/17/24 1:55pm

Oh heck ya. TNT does. It's all he has

TNT

4/17/24 3:13pm

I wouldn't call it hate. It's more like unmet expectations.

Eggguy

4/17/24 2:00pm

I love kalani. He is not a P4 head coach imo. My hope is in his assistants right the ship. My fear is a repeat of 2023

byuTX

4/17/24 2:16pm

Haters gonna hate. That's all it is.

Homo Erectus

4/17/24 2:57pm

This is the first year in forever that none of my friends want to travel to an

sunjieming

4/17/24 3:11pm

He has the team woefully underprepared too often. Schematically, strategically, emotionally, and/or physically. He’s not

Haysom Till

4/17/24 3:17pm

You described what KS is: an average HC. Most of us like Kalani & root for his

Forzaitalia

4/17/24 3:35pm

We are fortunate to have Coach Sitake

MadHawaiian

4/17/24 3:49pm

CB was around back then?

BaseCoug

4/17/24 10:45pm

I love Kalani the man. And wasn't ready to move on until last year. There were

BYUHawk

4/17/24 3:50pm

Pulled it together at the end to lose 5 in a row lol

byuTX

4/17/24 4:16pm

That is kind of funny that I forgot that important detail. But the team looked

BYUHawk

4/17/24 4:42pm

I actually agree they looked better the last two games FWIW. Only a D1 QB away from a decent year

byuTX

4/17/24 7:02pm

One of the biggest frustrations has been recruiting.

JJP

4/17/24 4:27pm

Wrong. There has been a Big 12 bump and he has recruited better than his

donnerstag

4/17/24 4:47pm

Big 12 bump seems like the Jay Hill bump. Offense did not do near as well as D

SoBlueitHurts

4/17/24 4:51pm

If you're using the rankings as your measure, it's a flawed measure

donnerstag

4/17/24 5:07pm

Ummm... then why do the schools that get better classes also do better at

SoBlueitHurts

4/17/24 5:53pm

Because they are getting 4 and 5 star recruits

donnerstag

4/17/24 7:39pm

RE: Wrong. There has been a Big 12 bump and he has recruited better than his

JJP

4/18/24 8:27am

I LOVE KALANI AND WE'RE LUCKY TO HAVE HIM

gocougs719

4/17/24 4:47pm

Agreed. One year in b12 after years in independence and associated economics and coaches. Look at the coaches he’s

Hammurabi

4/17/24 4:54pm

Kalani is really likeable. Average coach. Honestly BYU football would be much

oryguncoug

4/17/24 9:04pm

Kalani does not drive a recruiting culture. Half the team is from Utah schools.

TexDaddy

4/18/24 10:08am

...while only a third of the BYU student body comes from Utah.

TexDaddy

4/18/24 10:09am

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