As OC, yes. HC...that's a different story (which was probably KingDave's point).

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Jan 28, 2016
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maybe recruiting really is #1 over EVERYTHING else

nashty

1/28/16 3:45pm

Coaching will only take you so far if you don't have talented players

KingDave

1/28/16 3:49pm

And talent will only take you so far if you're a moron as a coach

FiveTen-BuckEighty

1/28/16 3:51pm

That describes Lane Kiffin

KingDave

1/28/16 3:59pm

You are completely wrong, Kiffin is well regarded as a brilliant offensive

Helm Hammerhand

1/28/16 5:22pm

As OC, yes. HC...that's a different story (which was probably KingDave's point).

BYUHgrad

1/28/16 5:57pm

You could say the same thing about Crowton.

SoValleyCOUG

1/28/16 9:02pm

How many National Championships did Crowton coach an offense in or win? Crowton

Helm Hammerhand

1/28/16 9:13pm

Gary won a NC at LSU, did you miss that?

CarolinaCoug

1/29/16 11:58am

Kiffins been to a lot more and won more, did you miss that?

Helm Hammerhand

1/29/16 2:10pm

I lol at these back and forths the worse they get. Thank you, never change.

Reasonable1

1/29/16 2:19pm

Sounds like Dave Rice at UNLV (but not a moron)

Bubba Gravity

1/28/16 4:35pm

Not sure the talent at UNLV is as good as people think it is

Turnpike Lane

1/28/16 4:41pm

Are you kidding??? #1 overall draft pick, several other NBA 1 & dones

LVCougarFan

1/28/16 8:04pm

Uhhh, actually superior talent will take you very far, and even cover up

Kerbouchard

1/28/16 10:21pm

i said something wise a long time ago:

riboflavin

1/28/16 3:52pm

Uhhh, pretty sure that wasn't you.

Reasonable1

1/28/16 3:55pm

There are also coaches that get great recruits that don't do much, but for the

Dillinger

1/28/16 3:51pm

will muschamp is apparently one of these guys.

riboflavin

1/28/16 3:52pm

Both are critical. There is no excuse for Broncos

Y'zFan

1/28/16 3:53pm

Developing HS talent into really good college players is the real challenge.

FrontLineFan

1/28/16 3:55pm

i actually think kalani has a good record of putting guys in the league.

riboflavin

1/28/16 3:57pm

Sitake has clearly still done some of that.

southernfriedcougar

1/28/16 3:56pm

bingo.

mindzeYe

1/28/16 11:21pm

Just an FYI, our new OC thinks he's gonna have to coach his players to

Left Shark Coug

1/28/16 4:04pm

I was waiting for someone to bring up the "top 25 class" stuff.

southernfriedcougar

1/28/16 4:14pm

This is probably an unpopular opinion, but I believe Bronco was very effective

RalphWiggam

1/28/16 4:19pm

His problem was getting guys with a higher

southernfriedcougar

1/28/16 4:24pm

He was great using Crowtons recruits

Flyingdolphin

1/28/16 4:25pm

Big catch though is that recruiting success depends a lot on winning. I think

QBarrister

1/28/16 4:28pm

why then did we destroy texas 2 years in a row when they have superior talent?

DoidoCougar

1/28/16 4:29pm

We had Taysom's superior talent, that was more superior than anyone they had

RaggaeCoug

1/28/16 4:33pm

Texas was a mess. That wasn't just Hill.

southernfriedcougar

1/28/16 4:37pm

The same Taysom Hill, who by the way, was NOT recruited out of High School

TheLoneCougar

1/28/16 9:02pm

Players win games....

nitroboy

1/28/16 7:02pm

Agreed. Its no surprise that the NC teams always have high recruiting classes.

RaggaeCoug

1/28/16 4:31pm

With the HC in place, can we improve recruiting enough to make a big difference?

jkccoug

1/28/16 4:35pm

Yes. To make it to championship caliber? No.

southernfriedcougar

1/28/16 4:38pm

James Fraklin at Penn State wishes this was the case.

CougarinOZ

1/28/16 6:12pm

Some coaches squeeze out more talent than others (Harbaugh, Meyer)

Ulysses14

1/28/16 6:50pm

Two words: Ron Zook...

(Private)

1/28/16 7:15pm

I think a close 2nd is...

icecougar

1/28/16 8:51pm

amen

mindzeYe

1/28/16 11:23pm

Lot of truth to that. Saban is considered best coach, but he doesn't out scheme

SoValleyCOUG

1/28/16 9:00pm

There is a game predictor where the guy filled out his entire bracket before the

jkccoug

1/28/16 9:16pm

Of course it is. Anyone that knows anything about CFB says so.

Kerbouchard

1/28/16 10:19pm

Any coach would win more games with Bama's recruits. Some coaches might just win

Tuskaloosa Cougar

1/28/16 10:57pm

this is a rather simplistic explanation.

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