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Oct 18, 2024
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TADOW
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Hearing the same message at my work. Employers are cracking down
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“If you don’t like it, then leave” what a great way to build morale and culture
arizonacougarfan
10:30am
Hearing the same message at my work. Employers are cracking down
TADOW
10:35am
He didn't say it like that and what else do you want him to say?
CSoul
10:35am
Having been through these types of conversations, I am guessing they tried every single way to be nice about it
P-Boy Squad
10:35am
People need to earn their pay. Only white collar brats complain about this
chismoso
10:36am
You may need to read more about Amazon Morale and Culture (or.. lack of)
TheLost
10:37am
Too many companies are getting burned by people abusing work from home.
byujacob
10:38am
is there any evidence of this?
Deleted
10:42am
We have had a lot at our company
P-Boy Squad
10:47am
In my case, work from home answered less phone calls, sold less,
JAGA97
10:48am
Here is my thing, is it abusing it if work is getting done on time?
Jay_L
10:55am
It doesn't. But that wasn't my experience. And your assessment of your work
JAGA97
11:02am
And what does, "I get all my work done" even mean?
CSoul
11:03am
This idea that, "my work is being done on time" makes no sense. What white collar jobs do you have that are just
CSoul
11:03am
I think there are jobs that fit a WFH or Hybrid work and some definitely don't.
Jay_L
12:52pm
You are still building your own work. I've worked in almost every department in my company. You choose
CSoul
12:55pm
I guess that is kind of true never thought of it that way.
Jay_L
1:02pm
No, none of these companies have any evidence.
CSoul
10:49am
I'm joking of course. Of course they have evidence. There is a LOT of it out there.
CSoul
10:52am
Maybe amazon has that data, I just think there is self interest . seems IMO to be more a reason to cut without firing
Deleted
10:52am
Wut? Of course it's self interest. To be a better company. That's all they SHOULD care about.
CSoul
10:58am
And I would say even if that were their plan, they have every right to do it. And all their employees have the right to
P-Boy Squad
11:04am
And so what if it is? Folks at least have a choice here rather than just
Ozymandias
11:21am
As a WFH advocate, I’d be shocked if the data says there’s no difference
maxpowers
10:49am
Actually, numbers are super high for WFH
Gustav
10:51am
Couple articles citing study at Stanford and another from survey monkey
BYUfan92
12:47pm
When you can't properly measure work, and I'd wager before
bald man
10:49am
Most of my company is remote... our office is in Dallas...
Coug
10:54am
They're trying to change their culture, hard to do. Lazy employees are the worst
delinquentcoug
10:39am
At some point, this type of discussion always has to come down to that.
The Dark Knight
10:39am
I'm 1000% behind him with his ultimatum.
TeeKaa
10:40am
That's the great thing about liberty. Employers can have standard work practices that are not illegal, and if an
Ragnar Danneskjold
10:42am
Good for Amazon. Employers should not be held hostage. Go find some place that
JimmyZ
10:42am
Meh, I have to show up for work every day if I want to get paid.
John Doe
10:42am
I think that if you are someone who is awesome at working from home, there
BoiseBlue
10:43am
So working in an office 5 days a week is now controversial?
notsofast
10:46am
yes, it is completely antiquated for many jobs, probably most amazon jobs
Deleted
10:48am
Years ago, the CIO came into a mtg to "build" morale
bald man
10:47am
RE: “If you don’t like it, then leave” what a great way to
Jay_L
10:50am
IMO if you WFH, you should have a quota.
maxpowers
10:51am
Employees that are good WFH employees will also be ok with going to the office
BP4byu
10:56am
People are beginning to think WFH is a right. It isn't
mudpupper
10:59am
I laugh because my company makes you 'book/checkout/reserve' a desk each mandatory day in the office..
TheLost
11:06am
They’re not doing it to build morale or culture. They’re doing it to cut headcount without having to pay severances
Mike Honcho
11:07am
Morale and culture is nice, but vehicle stress isn't.
BlueFever
11:11am
RE: Morale and culture is nice, but vehicle stress isn't.
fredgarvin
11:14am
They dont even give their employee Amazon Prime as a benefit. They dont care
MaximusMeridius
11:11am
They are super stressful but they pay a ton. They pay about 20% above market for most positions.
CSoul
11:17am
Depends on the job...not true for mine.
MaximusMeridius
12:05pm
I said above market, meaning average. They absolutely pay above average. Giving examples of others
CSoul
12:16pm
The exec is right. He may be hurting feelings but it is their company their policies. Now employees could unionize or do
BYU Grounds
11:16am
RE: “If you don’t like it, then leave” what a great way to
Northwest Cougar
11:28am
Or a way to weed out some people w/o firing them or to send a message that
BYUfan92
12:51pm
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