Are you sure it was luck that got him where he's at?

Jun 4, 2024
2:39:22pm

Skeptical Optimist Political Junky

Those government incentives were available to anybody who could design, build, and market EVs. Musk is the only person who built a $550 Billion company from nothing from those incentives.

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Skeptical Optimist

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Tesla sending NVidia AI chips to xAI, not going to Tesla.

Zoobieman

Jun 4, 2:06pm

Here is the problem with Elon as a long term CEO vs being a Chief Innovation Officer (which he should be). He

CSoul

Jun 4, 2:17pm

That seems reasonable

TNT

Jun 4, 2:27pm

Self driving is being slow-rolled by the government in the name of safety.

Tio

Jun 4, 2:33pm

No, it's not close to ready, and that's not just a government defined pronouncement

CSoul

Jun 4, 2:34pm

What other company has self driving cars? I'll wait.

Tio

Jun 4, 2:56pm

Self Driving with full government approval to drive anywhere? Zero!

Tio

Jun 4, 2:58pm

Squirrel!

CSoul

Jun 4, 3:06pm

Are you sure it was luck that got him where he's at?

Skeptical Optimist

Jun 4, 2:39pm

Individual words can be very important when you are trying to argue a point. "BUT he also"

CSoul

Jun 4, 3:08pm

Taking advantage of government incentives isn't luck.

Skeptical Optimist

Jun 4, 3:15pm

Uh, yes it is luck to be at that point of time. It wasn't luck to take advantage of it. I'm a business owner myself

CSoul

Jun 4, 3:19pm

An interesting analysis. Has your decreased opinion of musk corresponded with

EQD2

Jun 4, 2:18pm

RE: An interesting analysis. Has your decreased opinion of musk corresponded

Zoobieman

Jun 4, 2:48pm

? Underdelivered by what measure?

Swish

Jun 4, 2:28pm

Bots still own twitter, and we're nowhere close to his timelines for walking on

joelvandyne

Jun 4, 2:30pm

😂 SpaceX has done more in under 20 years for space travel than NASA in 80!

Tio

Jun 4, 2:45pm

SpaceX is doing some great things but...NASA landed 6 separate missions on the moon, sent 24 astronauts to the moon,

durandal

Jun 4, 2:52pm

Are you high? Apollo 11 was less than 80 years ago.

joelvandyne

Jun 4, 2:53pm

Look up "List of crewed Mars mission plans" on wiki and update your response.

Tio

Jun 4, 3:05pm

That's not a promise with a date.

joelvandyne

Jun 4, 3:14pm

Exactly. Modern NASA is a complete mess, but Space X can't hold a candle to the accomplishments of the literal

CSoul

Jun 4, 3:16pm

That’s nice if you’re picking an all time space team winner. For today space x

Swish

Jun 4, 5:51pm

Isn't that what I said? I also said I love space x.

CSoul

Jun 4, 7:24pm

I have one linked example, but pretty much every major promise. Self-driving, Tesla semi, roadster, solar panels

CSoul

Jun 4, 2:32pm

Name me one innovator who isn't off on their predictions. He's breaking new...

Tio

Jun 4, 2:55pm

Their is being off on predictions. . . and then their is fraud and straight lies

Zoobieman

Jun 4, 3:13pm

This is the lame equivalency argument that people use in business and politics to defend the person

CSoul

Jun 4, 3:13pm

Have you driven with fsd? It’s amazing. No one else is anywhere close.

Swish

Jun 4, 5:52pm

Yes, it's cool. Has tons of limitations. Doesn't have many safety benefits over stopping and lane assist.

CSoul

Jun 4, 7:23pm

FSD is awesome. . . I would say it is too good to ignore.

Zoobieman

Jun 4, 7:54pm

It will grow exponentially in capability. It’s the worse it will ever be right

Swish

Jun 4, 7:56pm

Elon's been saying that for 8 years. . .

Zoobieman

Jun 4, 9:51pm

Quick example from each company

Zoobieman

Jun 4, 3:10pm

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