I agree...nobody should be denying that it happened...and it may even make for riviting entertainment.

Jan 4, 2025
12:03:54pm

Cthack1 All-American

But I am just frustrated by the fact that this is how all the pioneers and some of the leaders at the time will be characterized.

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American Primeval is a blatant character assassination of the Utah pioneers

Cthack1 All-American

Jan 4, 8:53am

Yeah, I haven't watched it but I read an interview with the people behind the

Cougs'16

Jan 4, 8:58am

Funny how nearly all films don’t portray the Native Americans accurately in the

CougfromtheSouth

Jan 4, 9:02am

Not sure about that

Cougs'16

Jan 4, 9:07am

True. I’m in the younger generation. Things that came out in the 70’s and 80’s

CougfromtheSouth

Jan 4, 9:09am

Cultural consultants. Is that what

BYU71

Jan 4, 9:25am

RE: Cultural consultants. Is that what

Cougs'16

Jan 4, 11:28am

Drives me nuts how inaccurate they are

Brandoblueblood

Jan 4, 9:55am

Have you seen it yet?

JoeExotic

Jan 4, 8:58am

Comes out starting next week

puntersarepeople

Jan 4, 9:00am

Maybe we should watch it before declaring it a blatant character assassination?

JoeExotic

Jan 4, 9:01am

There are some spoilers/leaks so it may be obvious already

puntersarepeople

Jan 4, 9:07am

Here is the preview....feel free to watch and let us know how accurate it is

Cthack1

Jan 4, 9:03am

Preview didn’t seem too lopsided

Durden

Jan 4, 9:07am

So the mountain meadows massacre is a fair characterization of the lives of the Utah pioneers?

Cthack1

Jan 4, 9:13am

It was not characteristic. But it did happen. Can’t ignore it. The religion

Jstak17

Jan 4, 10:43am

I agree...nobody should be denying that it happened...and it may even make for riviting entertainment.

Cthack1

Jan 4, 12:03pm

On IMDB

Black Sunshine

Jan 4, 9:11am

I listened to an extended interview with the director and have done some reading on the making of the show

Cthack1

Jan 4, 9:39am

Can you post a link to the interview?

citron

Jan 4, 10:20am

Feel free to Google it...there is plenty of information if you are interested.

Cthack1

Jan 4, 10:47am

I'm hoping to see the directors interview that made you draw the conclusions

citron

Jan 4, 11:20am

I posted background information behind my thoughts. Feel free to do the same and post your thoughts.

Cthack1

Jan 4, 11:59am

Isn’t the controversy over wether the order came from Brigham Young, vs the

Jstak17

Jan 4, 10:42am

NYTimes calls it a fair and authentic retelling.

OPINIONS

Jan 4, 9:05am

That should tell us something.

rockhound

Jan 4, 9:07am

Luckily it will be marginally viewed.

IronPotato

Jan 4, 9:09am

What qualified the author to speak with any level of authority on the subject....

Cthack1

Jan 4, 9:09am

What qualified you to post such a strong opinion on a show you haven't watched?

citron

Jan 4, 9:30am

see my post above...

Cthack1

Jan 4, 9:40am

So you haven't watched it? How can you post this about a show not released and

citron

Jan 4, 9:52am

Correct…I have only the directors interview, what I read on the production and the preview.

Cthack1

Jan 4, 10:25am

Can you post the link?

citron

Jan 4, 10:37am

Google....

Cthack1

Jan 4, 10:49am

Odds they have read an academic paper about it? Or even the church’s essay about

puntersarepeople

Jan 4, 9:47am

I would think they are familiar with the church’s side of the story. You sound

Jstak17

Jan 4, 10:53am

I’m bugged by activists masquerading as activists

puntersarepeople

Jan 4, 11:25am

Just don’t watch it then.

Jstak17

Jan 4, 11:45am

I wasn’t planning on it. I was making fun of the NYT more than anything

puntersarepeople

Jan 4, 11:17pm

I hear ya. And yes, I’m sure it won’t look great for the church. The New York

Jstak17

Jan 5, 2:18am

Picture of snow white horse in NYT article is amusing

Underhill

Jan 4, 9:41am

Then he obviously knew nothing about the Reformation of 1856, which included questions about frequent bathing in a list

Still Open

Jan 4, 9:56am

It's interesting too that in times of such luxury, we can ever be critical of

IronPotato

Jan 4, 9:08am

Meh who cares… it was the Wild West, yewt happened, some people got killed…

kotacoug

Jan 4, 9:10am

Mmm= some people got killed?

Deleted

Jan 4, 9:21am

Ya. Some people got killed. A lot of people got killed in the west as it was

kotacoug

Jan 4, 10:57am

I disagree (and agree). The Saints had a lot of organization as they were all of

puntersarepeople

Jan 4, 9:56am

God’s laws are the same yesterday, today, and forever…except for 1820-1978

1manwolfpack

Jan 4, 9:56am

Not. Sure what you’re even talking about. If that’s some kind of flex it missed

kotacoug

Jan 4, 10:58am

The priesthood ban but he got the years wrong I am guessing.

Probable Sacko

Jan 4, 9:02pm

Is it worse than September Dawn (2007)?

SinkingQuffa

Jan 4, 9:16am

Can't be worse. This is actually a pro level (award winning) production team.

Avery

Jan 4, 9:52am

In terms of effect & persuasiveness — it could be a lot worse then, right?

SinkingQuffa

Jan 4, 9:55am

OP has no idea since it hasn't even been released yet.

citron

Jan 4, 10:00am

That’s not anymore fair than the OPs take

puntersarepeople

Jan 4, 10:04am

How does watching a directors interview make you informed as to whether

citron

Jan 4, 10:11am

Nah. Director could easily provide enough specifics to tell you the story was

puntersarepeople

Jan 4, 10:16am

Possibly. I think it's a little absurd to come out with such a strong take and

citron

Jan 4, 10:24am

Didn’t Costner and Sheridan both do old west series recently? Personally I don’t

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