Then he obviously knew nothing about the Reformation of 1856, which included questions about frequent bathing in a list

Jan 4, 2025
9:56:14am

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of questions to be asked to members. Were they clean by 2024 standards? No. But they were very conscious of bathing and being presentable.

Sorry, but as someone who is very well acquainted with 1850s Utah, this show seems laughably bad.

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American Primeval is a blatant character assassination of the Utah pioneers

Cthack1 All-American

Jan 4, 8:53am

Yeah, I haven't watched it but I read an interview with the people behind the

Cougs'16

Jan 4, 8:58am

Funny how nearly all films don’t portray the Native Americans accurately in the

CougfromtheSouth

Jan 4, 9:02am

Not sure about that

Cougs'16

Jan 4, 9:07am

True. I’m in the younger generation. Things that came out in the 70’s and 80’s

CougfromtheSouth

Jan 4, 9:09am

Cultural consultants. Is that what

BYU71

Jan 4, 9:25am

RE: Cultural consultants. Is that what

Cougs'16

Jan 4, 11:28am

Drives me nuts how inaccurate they are

Brandoblueblood

Jan 4, 9:55am

Have you seen it yet?

JoeExotic

Jan 4, 8:58am

Comes out starting next week

puntersarepeople

Jan 4, 9:00am

Maybe we should watch it before declaring it a blatant character assassination?

JoeExotic

Jan 4, 9:01am

There are some spoilers/leaks so it may be obvious already

puntersarepeople

Jan 4, 9:07am

Here is the preview....feel free to watch and let us know how accurate it is

Cthack1

Jan 4, 9:03am

Preview didn’t seem too lopsided

Durden

Jan 4, 9:07am

So the mountain meadows massacre is a fair characterization of the lives of the Utah pioneers?

Cthack1

Jan 4, 9:13am

It was not characteristic. But it did happen. Can’t ignore it. The religion

Jstak17

Jan 4, 10:43am

I agree...nobody should be denying that it happened...and it may even make for riviting entertainment.

Cthack1

Jan 4, 12:03pm

On IMDB

Black Sunshine

Jan 4, 9:11am

I listened to an extended interview with the director and have done some reading on the making of the show

Cthack1

Jan 4, 9:39am

Can you post a link to the interview?

citron

Jan 4, 10:20am

Feel free to Google it...there is plenty of information if you are interested.

Cthack1

Jan 4, 10:47am

I'm hoping to see the directors interview that made you draw the conclusions

citron

Jan 4, 11:20am

I posted background information behind my thoughts. Feel free to do the same and post your thoughts.

Cthack1

Jan 4, 11:59am

Isn’t the controversy over wether the order came from Brigham Young, vs the

Jstak17

Jan 4, 10:42am

NYTimes calls it a fair and authentic retelling.

OPINIONS

Jan 4, 9:05am

That should tell us something.

rockhound

Jan 4, 9:07am

Luckily it will be marginally viewed.

IronPotato

Jan 4, 9:09am

What qualified the author to speak with any level of authority on the subject....

Cthack1

Jan 4, 9:09am

What qualified you to post such a strong opinion on a show you haven't watched?

citron

Jan 4, 9:30am

see my post above...

Cthack1

Jan 4, 9:40am

So you haven't watched it? How can you post this about a show not released and

citron

Jan 4, 9:52am

Correct…I have only the directors interview, what I read on the production and the preview.

Cthack1

Jan 4, 10:25am

Can you post the link?

citron

Jan 4, 10:37am

Google....

Cthack1

Jan 4, 10:49am

Odds they have read an academic paper about it? Or even the church’s essay about

puntersarepeople

Jan 4, 9:47am

I would think they are familiar with the church’s side of the story. You sound

Jstak17

Jan 4, 10:53am

I’m bugged by activists masquerading as activists

puntersarepeople

Jan 4, 11:25am

Just don’t watch it then.

Jstak17

Jan 4, 11:45am

I wasn’t planning on it. I was making fun of the NYT more than anything

puntersarepeople

Jan 4, 11:17pm

I hear ya. And yes, I’m sure it won’t look great for the church. The New York

Jstak17

Jan 5, 2:18am

Picture of snow white horse in NYT article is amusing

Underhill

Jan 4, 9:41am

Then he obviously knew nothing about the Reformation of 1856, which included questions about frequent bathing in a list

Still Open

Jan 4, 9:56am

It's interesting too that in times of such luxury, we can ever be critical of

IronPotato

Jan 4, 9:08am

Meh who cares… it was the Wild West, yewt happened, some people got killed…

kotacoug

Jan 4, 9:10am

Mmm= some people got killed?

Deleted

Jan 4, 9:21am

Ya. Some people got killed. A lot of people got killed in the west as it was

kotacoug

Jan 4, 10:57am

I disagree (and agree). The Saints had a lot of organization as they were all of

puntersarepeople

Jan 4, 9:56am

God’s laws are the same yesterday, today, and forever…except for 1820-1978

1manwolfpack

Jan 4, 9:56am

Not. Sure what you’re even talking about. If that’s some kind of flex it missed

kotacoug

Jan 4, 10:58am

The priesthood ban but he got the years wrong I am guessing.

Probable Sacko

Jan 4, 9:02pm

Is it worse than September Dawn (2007)?

SinkingQuffa

Jan 4, 9:16am

Can't be worse. This is actually a pro level (award winning) production team.

Avery

Jan 4, 9:52am

In terms of effect & persuasiveness — it could be a lot worse then, right?

SinkingQuffa

Jan 4, 9:55am

OP has no idea since it hasn't even been released yet.

citron

Jan 4, 10:00am

That’s not anymore fair than the OPs take

puntersarepeople

Jan 4, 10:04am

How does watching a directors interview make you informed as to whether

citron

Jan 4, 10:11am

Nah. Director could easily provide enough specifics to tell you the story was

puntersarepeople

Jan 4, 10:16am

Possibly. I think it's a little absurd to come out with such a strong take and

citron

Jan 4, 10:24am

Didn’t Costner and Sheridan both do old west series recently? Personally I don’t

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