NO!! on #2.

Dec 29, 2024
8:44:13am

WaybackCougar Contributor

NO!! on #2.

QB play was admittedly short of stellar. But to not rate it at least "decent" completely ignores all the great things Jake did accomplish. Same for ARod and his play calling.

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WaybackCougar

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I believe two things are true:

Booya Grandma

12/29/24 8:36am

Offensive play calling was mediocre too

Coug98

12/29/24 8:38am

That was true sometimes and sometimes it was really good

Beggar

12/29/24 8:39am

Exactly! This is true of EVERY team. You can't get 10 yards or more every...

GordonSpieth

12/29/24 9:34am

No, offensive execution was mediocre

SJS

12/29/24 8:43am

Passing game execution was subpar. The ground game execution was good, which

Forzaitalia

12/29/24 9:38am

Disagree. I thought it was good overall, but definitely some bad moments. Better

HeyU

12/29/24 8:43am

Maybe at points during the season, but play calls last night were well scripted, just sadly the execution was bad on

CLCougar

12/29/24 8:52am

We scored 36 points against a heisman playing defense.

Brandoblueblood

12/29/24 9:31am

With a solid team you can win with a game manager.

Archaea

12/29/24 8:40am

He can't. This is his peak. He won't get better.

88Coug

12/29/24 8:43am

He won’t improve by leaps and bounds but he will be better

Archaea

12/29/24 8:43am

Just stop, this narrative is tiring.

NorCal_Coug

12/29/24 8:44am

It is reality. Accept or live in fantasy.

88Coug

12/29/24 8:51am

I accept you know very little about college football or sports in general…

NorCal_Coug

12/29/24 8:53am

He hasn't shown improvement and instead has gotten worse

88Coug

12/29/24 9:00am

🤡

NorCal_Coug

12/29/24 9:06am

/\clearly didn’t watch games last year/\ not actually a fan. Move along.

NYC and Japan

12/29/24 10:03am

He’s been injured. He also won us games we would have lost. You terribly undervalued what he did this year.

KYU

12/29/24 10:16am

He shouldn't have played injured. He was good enough when healthy.

88Coug

12/29/24 10:25am

🤡

NorCal_Coug

12/29/24 10:41am

Better not to post about yourself.

88Coug

12/29/24 10:53am

Ummmm…..he’s right ya know…..

UMWolverine

12/29/24 11:43am

No, he is not.

88Coug

12/29/24 12:01pm

Did you see Jerry? Our coaches know more than we do about what’s going on. I trust their decisions. Can’t argue

KYU

12/29/24 1:52pm

Go cheer for Georgia

NYC and Japan

12/29/24 10:02am

Sorry, I didn't get 2 degrees from Georgia. My dad, grandparents and

88Coug

12/29/24 10:13am

You are acting miserably

rcbyufan

12/29/24 12:02pm

Don't project your emotions onto me. I am happy. I can be both happy and

88Coug

12/29/24 12:14pm

You need a hug

rcbyufan

12/29/24 12:34pm

Again, stop projecting your needs on me.

88Coug

12/29/24 12:54pm

I already do and it's great.

Diablo and Doc

12/29/24 2:50pm

lol

gaffer

12/29/24 8:44am

He won’t get better? That’s as laughable as saying he’ll win the Heisman.

WP17

12/29/24 8:51am

He’s only started one full season. plenty of QB’s improve in their 2nd

arcawley

12/29/24 9:05am

I seem to remember a lot of posters saying the same last year

puntersarepeople

12/29/24 9:35am

Yep, because he didn’t get dramatically better from last year to this year. Oops

NYC and Japan

12/29/24 10:01am

How on earth can you possibly know that?

VenomFarmer

12/29/24 3:02pm

This. Jake wasn’t required to win games with his arm His running ability was big

Kolipoki

12/29/24 8:43am

Ugh. I don't want a game manager. Here's hoping he takes another step forward during the off season.

BYUnerd

12/29/24 8:45am

Which is why I hope BYU has an open QB competition rather than just annoint Jake

Forzaitalia

12/29/24 9:41am

Agree - but they won’t…they pretended it was open this yr but really wasn’t.

truecougster

12/29/24 11:10am

Not happening. Like it or not, even when injured they have played the starter.

Blue for Life

12/29/24 4:58pm

Two more things are true:

oxcoug

12/29/24 8:41am

I mostly agree. Jake has improved and he should continue to do so.

Booya Grandma

12/29/24 8:43am

I agree. I hope Jake was just John Beck from 2005. Ill take a 2006 JB all day

kansascougar

12/29/24 8:43am

Jake was nowhere near John Beck in 2005

deliciousmocha

12/29/24 9:01am

Jake was better than Beck 2004, his first full year starting

NYC and Japan

12/29/24 10:05am

Through 11 games their numbers were pretty much the same

deliciousmocha

12/29/24 10:20am

Jake had a ton of short fields this year. Our Onwas really good when that

Blue for Life

12/29/24 5:03pm

And one more…

ordinary tri guy

12/29/24 8:44am

Great point. No way that ball should have been thrown. Surrounded by CU players

Kolipoki

12/29/24 8:47am

The throw is there if its 7 yard’s deeper.

ordinary tri guy

12/29/24 8:58am

Yup, I think it's a TD if it's thrown over the defender

BluebloodOR

12/29/24 1:07pm

GB can’t pass

I'mBatman

12/29/24 1:02pm

Yea not like Jake had any throws like that. GB came in cold from the sideline

Blue for Life

12/29/24 5:13pm

People think Jake was off against SMU

jre85

12/29/24 10:08am

EOY top 10 means we should benefit next season in pre-season rankings instead of coming into the season unranked.

greatbam

12/29/24 10:20am

Beck was also 2 years older than Jake!

gaffer

12/29/24 10:24am

I’d change #2 to the whole offense being mediocre. It is very possible to have

bluecougar1985

12/29/24 8:43am

NO!! on #2.

WaybackCougar

12/29/24 8:44am

Jake was better then mediocre. Not AA but good. The best byu qbs are seniors

runnincoug

12/29/24 8:54am

Sadly all metrics show he is in fact mediocre to worse than mediocre

WP17

12/29/24 8:55am

What's your definition of mediocre? He was top half in the big12. To me, good

runnincoug

12/29/24 9:00am

He’s bottom half of college football in interceptions, QBR, Completion, PFF… he’s mediocre.

WP17

12/29/24 9:38am

Name 7 Big12 QBs you think are better. Sanders (I guess?), Leavitt ...

runnincoug

12/29/24 9:55am

Sawyer Robertson is probably a better thrower.

jre85

12/29/24 10:12am

Probably. He looked pretty bad against us.

runnincoug

12/29/24 10:21am

We made some good qbs look bad because

jre85

12/29/24 12:13pm

No he started to take off against us

puntersarepeople

12/29/24 1:55pm

Big12 head coaches strongly disagree with you. Voted Jake 3rd best QB in Big12

NYC and Japan

12/29/24 1:22pm

I would say average to slightly above average

Cougar76

12/29/24 9:07am

Statistically when taking into account SOS and running he is slightly above average.

CSoul

12/29/24 9:20am

Jake was 3rd best QB in Big12, far above mediocre. Voted 3rd by Big12 HCs

NYC and Japan

12/29/24 10:07am

Big 12 coaches don’t know squat. A few of them didn’t even play against Jake. None of them watched Jake as many times

KYU

12/29/24 10:25am

Two biggest things to improve next year for us to have the ultimate season:

specsauce

12/29/24 8:58am

We saw some of #2 last night. Had some success on speed options with wrinkles they hadn’t shown all season

22jrob22

12/29/24 11:33am

This is true. This is one of the reasons I believe this will end up being ARod’s focus in the offseason.

specsauce

12/29/24 3:50pm

This was the best D & ST in my lifetime. Last night was a case in point with an

Forzaitalia

12/29/24 9:34am

This is 100% correct. The reason it’s hard for people to grasp is that our run

SnickSnack

12/29/24 10:25am

I’d say QB play was better than mediocre, but not consistently “great”. Too many

BleedCougarBlue2

12/29/24 11:56am

Yup - more spectacularly inconsistent than mediocre.

Eddie

12/29/24 12:01pm

Yeah that’s fair. I would say he was above average in the Big12. I hope

SnickSnack

12/29/24 12:39pm

98.5 quarterback rating is good, isn't it?

Plantagenet

12/29/24 12:28pm

He’s 60th on this list

I'mBatman

12/29/24 1:13pm

Correction: His rating Saturday was a poor number in the 30's.

Plantagenet

12/30/24 10:27am

Agreed. Combo of defense, special teams, coaching was fantastic.

Hill4Heisman

12/29/24 3:59pm

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