I don't know, sounds like snowflake logic to me. Total beta stuff to be

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Nov 22, 2024
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joelvandyne Political Junky

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Author

Time

Ousted to "Head Coach in Waiting". Got it.

Manti

Nov 21, 7:12pm

Exactly, funny he is saying that.

Blue for Life

Nov 21, 7:14pm

If you think scalley didn’t go through hell with that situation I don’t know

davidmj10

Nov 21, 9:16pm

Yeah he seems more classy than Whitt. I hope he can end the toxicity.

YOHONOMOTO

Nov 21, 9:24pm

Classier than Whitt is an extremely low bar

byuTX

Nov 21, 9:28pm

Just a joke.

Manti

Nov 21, 9:27pm

I'm not sure what the steep price he paid was

SUAVO

Nov 21, 10:10pm

His name was vilified. It continues to haunt him even today.

davidmj10

7:03am

He got all that stuff back pretty quick after the incident and I doubt a million

SUAVO

7:56am

Exactly, they waited for it to blow over and then reinstated the pay and title

CameronG

9:55am

This is all true, but he chose to stay and face it knowing full well that

stansburycoug

1:00pm

I think Manti is simply pointing out the hypocrisy of some in that fanbase

morningcalmcougar

Nov 21, 10:20pm

What exactly price did he pay??

Blue for Life

Nov 21, 11:02pm

Didn’t it cost him more than a million dollars or something?

BYUCLA

12:55am

No, more like a 100k for about a year. To recover from the financial penalty.

slccoug

1:49am

He's a dork, but he doesn't deserve to be canceled over what he did

Jericho

2:51am

Sounds like he didn’t pay anything. See above.

Blue for Life

6:13am

He did, especially in mental anguish and distress

Jericho

9:26am

I don't know, sounds like snowflake logic to me. Total beta stuff to be

joelvandyne

9:34am

Sounds like you know him personally so maybe you do know better than I do.

Blue for Life

10:02am

Poor guy if he were in any other field he'd have been fired. I'm gutted for him

stansburycoug

1:40pm

I don’t think he is a victim so much

Jericho

3:11pm

You ve never worked for a big corp. or the government have you

stansburycoug

4:23pm

Big corps and government are poorly run, in general

Jericho

4:31pm

He didn’t make a mistake. I guarantee you that wasn’t the first time he used

ChiCityCoug

10:00am

People aren’t perfect. Sark is a redemption comeback story for exampl

Dr MoBYU

10:35am

Whether you are right or wrong, a Ute making a blanket statement like that is

fattycoug

11:15am

Can we please stop bringing this up? It’s not a good look for us.

WillsPitStop

6:44am

I can’t believe I’m about to defend a Ute and the n-word

reddead

6:54am

You said the n-word a lot growing up? I never did, nor do I recall any of my peers. Well, my non-black peers.

scootsy

7:49am

It’s insanely common even today. Have siblings that just graduated from a UT HS

reddead

9:46am

I can’t believe I’m on a message board w/ people who defend the n word. What am I doing here?

SJS

9:48am

Different times; we’re criticizing yesterday’s actions by the standards of today

reddead

9:51am

Lol 2013 wasn't a different time

byuTX

9:57am

It absolutely was; race by any metric has become a much bigger issue over the

reddead

10:05am

It certainly wasn't a time when a middle-aged football coach should think they

russkiejedi

11:27am

RE: It absolutely was; race by any metric has become a much bigger issue over the

byuTX

11:57am

Instead of a GIF, how about some data? I have mine

reddead

12:06pm

11 years ago was too recent for a man in his 30's to be using the N word and not get backlash. This is laughably

byuTX

12:13pm

It’s also a different enough time that jumping to fire/cancel/never forgive

reddead

12:21pm

That's a completely different matter. I don't think he should be canceled. I think he should be mocked mercilessly

byuTX

12:44pm

We ask that question all the time.

BE-WHY-YOU

9:56am

I would agree it is common among minorities however a white person who is a

Blue for Life

10:06am

I wasn’t around in the 70s and 80s, but I saw the 90s and 2000s firsthand

reddead

10:17am

I've never used that word. I've known my entire life it was wrong. I've heard it used plenty of times,

Supercoug

7:58am

Sure. Okay 🙄

reddead

9:50am

It’s kind of insane that you assume everyone uses the N-word. Lol.

Supercoug

12:40pm

I don’t think “everyone” USES it. I think many have USED it

reddead

12:47pm

(accelerating rapidly in the 90's) is kind of undermining your premise about an

joelvandyne

12:52pm

Did you read the articles?

reddead

1:24pm

I'm not sure you know what the word data means, and no my position would not

joelvandyne

1:42pm

Those of you who are shocked about this

AFtotheNW

8:51am

Exactly. It’s edgy and coarse, but was not as bad as the f-word back then

reddead

9:48am

It’s always been worse than the f-word

spinner

11:46am

Now we’re talking semantics. A word is only as bad as it’s considered to be

reddead

12:03pm

Only cave people and weirdo generations last for less than 13 years

byuTX

12:06pm

I replied with data above. We’ve seen things dramatically change since 2000s

reddead

12:08pm

RE: I replied with data above. We’ve seen things dramatically change since 2000s

byuTX

12:16pm

140 years after Huck Finn was written, there’s no excuse for using the n-word

spinner

12:10pm

13 years and 140 years are the same according to reddead's "data"

byuTX

12:14pm

I agree now. I don’t think I would have agreed in 2000s and early teens

reddead

12:22pm

I can

spinner

9:01am

What just happened here? Did someone really compare Scalley to Washington and

Emmett Fitz-Hume

10:16am

Principle of judging the past by present standards applies

reddead

12:00pm

Oh, I get what you're trying to do. But a Scalley to GW/TJ comparison with a 200

Emmett Fitz-Hume

1:34pm

Maybe you and I don't/didn't regularly associate with the same people as reddead

byuTX

1:40pm

Fact check: this was 100% A-OK during the 2000s

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