None of his catches required anywhere near that level of skill as a receiver.

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Nov 17, 2024
7:24:18pm

fredgarvin All-American

None of his catches required anywhere near that level of skill as a receiver.

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fredgarvin

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Joined: Nov 13, 2003
Last login: Nov 17, 2024
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Gonna take a long time for me to forgive that outrageous corner-fade call. Cost

PGVikingDad

1:08pm

And very poorly executed.

Brigham

1:10pm

Like epically

Big12Yfan

1:11pm

He actually does it all the time on intermediate throws. Balls in the dirt where

russkiejedi

5:19pm

Isn’t that part of why it was such a bad call? Jake never throws fades well.

NonmormonYfan89

4:23pm

This is literally the only problem. Arod makes fine calls, he’s just

Polecat

5:17pm

Even spiking the ball there, they were scrambling like

novacoug1

1:10pm

Yes, we seemed panicked. We had time and time-outs, yet spiked the ball wasting

Brigham

1:11pm

It seemed like overhang from terrible clock management last week. Rather than practicing how to do it right

8:12pm

That spike nearly killed me, too. Such incompetence, and a Twilight Zone repeat

PGVikingDad

1:11pm

They've had some epic last minute comebacks, but two epic failures at the end of

jaba166

6:26pm

I could forgive it if we go on a 6 game win streak now. I'll eat a beefy 5 layer burrito with my face if we do it.

foofcoug

1:11pm

You mean 7 game? I doubt we get a bye now.

AZPTCOUG

1:11pm

That'd be a bonus. I'm fine losing in the Finals. Don't want to be too greedy.

foofcoug

1:13pm

You think winning the BigXII CCG won’t get us the four seed? BSU would not get

BYUHgrad

1:24pm

Maybe if Boise is undefeated with only loss to #1 undefeated Oregon.

AZPTCOUG

1:27pm

I still highly doubt the committee will look at BSU that way. PTSD CB does not

BYUHgrad

1:40pm

If we win out, we will highly likely be ahead of 2 of ACC, MWC and AAC champs

NYC and Japan

2:17pm

Winning conference championship would likely give us two more top 25 wins and

cwilke1

2:27pm

Eat THE beefy 5-layer burrito, and I'll be impressed.

PGVikingDad

1:13pm

RE: Eat THE beefy 5-layer burrito, and I'll be impressed.

foofcoug

1:16pm

Has it been confirmed if Jake changed Aron’s call to the fade?

Traveshamockery

1:12pm

Confirmed he made the wrong read

niqmadu

4:50pm

Oh I rage cussed when it happened and I'm still really ticked off about it

Coug

1:13pm

I was yelling at the TV the moment I recognized a pass play developing. Just the

PGVikingDad

1:15pm

Same. My son typically is quiet during the game and he was really ticked also

Coug

1:24pm

It’s been years since I yelled after a play. Surprised myself by doing it again.

Albuq_Coug

8:21pm

W have too many good players to throw a high risk play to a lowly used player

NYCougz

1:14pm

This is one of the most bizarre sports fan cliches, to me. Do people really feel

shoganai

1:16pm

Kalani talked about this early on in the year, after Jake had some interception

Stopper6700

1:38pm

Yup, I have to agree. 1st and goal at the 5, and we've got 40 seconds and

jaba166

1:25pm

Yeah, LJ was over 7 YPC in 1H and we don’t run from the 5, with 2 timeouts. dumb

dtownCoug

1:28pm

Makes you wonder why we didn't try to milk clock that time, instead of at the

jaba166

6:14pm

Chase Roberts said in post game that they love the play and had the matchup but Jake missed the pass. Jake said same.

GoodBetterBestBYU

2:33pm

Receivers will always love a pass play. We should have ran it three times

2:36pm

Like at the end of the game? I don’t mind the call Honestly, that SHOULD be a

akmewg

3:09pm

Yep Jake owned it

GoodBetterBestBYU

3:13pm

1st down from the 5 in a tie game knowing you are going to get

3:28pm

Wouldn’t have needed 3 runs.

dtownCoug

3:49pm

I agree.

3:55pm

Fade is never a good play. Best-case scenario, it's a 50/50 jump ball.

fredgarvin

3:40pm

Never ? That’s just silly.

Polecat

5:17pm

Most teams disagree. Great play with right matchups and good throw.

GoodBetterBestBYU

6:47pm

Still a low-percentage play. You're hoping for a jump ball.

fredgarvin

6:54pm

Higher percentage if you have the matchup. We did. I think it’s a low percentage play with Jake so should be shelved

GoodBetterBestBYU

7:04pm

Ta'ase is a blocking tight end. He never has the matchup.

fredgarvin

7:05pm

3 tds out of 7 catches. He has good hands too.

GoodBetterBestBYU

7:17pm

None of his catches required anywhere near that level of skill as a receiver.

fredgarvin

7:24pm

Thrown well to a 6’5 receiver over a 5’10 DB shouldn’t be hard or be an incompletion. He wasn’t the problem, Jake’s pass

GoodBetterBestBYU

7:27pm

Chase is acting the part of a great leader and not throwing people under bus

cajuncoug

5:39pm

Well he pointed out that Jake missed it.

KYU

8:45pm

Were there multiple Chase interviews?

cajuncoug

8:56pm

Very common play call at all levels. Poor throw. Chase acknowledged that Jake missed the throw. I don’t think

KYU

9:05pm

Here you go

cajuncoug

9:15pm

Roberts also said it was the wrong read. There was a much better option.

Accipiter

6:33pm

He said it was the right read and matchup just didn’t get there and was kind in saying, “DB made a great play”

GoodBetterBestBYU

6:48pm

It’s wasn’t the call. It was the throw that was the problem.

yapacoug

3:22pm

Totally true. Might be a great play but not for Jake.

GoodBetterBestBYU

3:26pm

True. But when that throw looked exactly the same as it did on other fades that

3:48pm

It is 1000% the play call. And also a terrible pass

cajuncoug

5:45pm

And the read. Jake should have looked left and throw the fade to the right.

BYUHgrad

6:55pm

Especially with Marion wide open in the middle of the field.

idcougarfan

3:23pm

I'm more upset by 10 on the field for Kansas first TD

PastyGangsta

3:50pm

I’m not in the QB room or on the headset, but could it be that the play had

Reasonable1

3:51pm

Could be. If so, replace the fade with another route

5:12pm

Most plays have multiple options. Chase said they liked the matchup. Bad throw. It happens.

GoodBetterBestBYU

6:50pm

RE: Most plays have multiple options. Chase said they liked the matchup. Bad

Reasonable1

6:54pm

If Jake throws it like he is supposed to, you wouldn’t be thinking about ARod at all. Ball needs to be thrown to a spot

4:12pm

Correct

GoodBetterBestBYU

6:50pm

From what understand is there were 4 options on that play. Jake chose the fade

4:15pm

Fade is suppose to be outside and high. Low risk

Bobmarleyjr

5:09pm

Coaching malpractice. But no accountability. Was a fireable bad call by ARod

fan32

5:29pm

TIC right? This call with this matchup is made all the time. Bad execution is all. Sheesh.

GoodBetterBestBYU

6:51pm

Teams throw fades to their blocking tight ends in that situation "all the time"?

fredgarvin

6:59pm

He’s had 7 catches this year 3 of which are TDs and is a huge body. Not a bad bet if QB can make the pass.

GoodBetterBestBYU

7:06pm

Spoiler alert: he can't.

fredgarvin

7:07pm

Agreed, take it out of his repertoire.

GoodBetterBestBYU

7:18pm

Then every OC in college and the pros should be fired. Is it a bad call because Jake can’t make the throw????

KYU

8:47pm

Some people believe things are bad calls because of bad outcomes. Coaches look at practice, data, matchups, timing…

GoodBetterBestBYU

9:23pm

Forgive? This one blows right past 70 x 7

cajuncoug

6:33pm

Yup! Given the implications and BYU's opportunity to have a once in 40 year kind

jaba166

6:48pm

You've never made a mistake?

rockyrd

7:13pm

That is a play used by team at all levels in that exact situation. Why are you so upset at the call & not the execution

KYU

8:44pm

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