But to call a guy a good developer he has to own all the guys he brings in. You can t use Hall as a plus and just ignore the fact that there were 4+ guys on the bench behind them that ARod had 0 trust in to go in and throw a pass in a game.

Same with Slovis.and Jake. Jake got better but is Jake getting better because of ARod or because of Jake. If we say it s ARod then we also have to say Kedon didnt get better because of Arod

Hence the mixed bag convo. Still think its the QB and thrle work they put in more than anything once they get to this level. Beck, Hall, Zach, Jaren all guys that were reported as putting in a ton of work on their own.