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Oct 14, 2024
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ghettomagic
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Well, according to an anonymous donor…
BYU is in the market for AJ Dybantsa from an NIL perspective. Folks, we might be talking $8 to $9M for one year! One and done!
Smart business decision? Yes or no?
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Well, according to an anonymous donor…
ghettomagic
Oct 14, 12:06pm
Yes
Preppy
Oct 14, 12:07pm
If I'm AJ, my agent better be able to negotiate 8-9
xgbs
Oct 14, 2:11pm
Meh the market should be the same or less. You get paid $5m to play 82 NBA
Socrates Johnson
Oct 14, 4:37pm
AJ will likely get paid triple that.
xgbs
Oct 15, 9:51am
Yeah Risacher is making $12.5M in year 1 as the latest #1 overall pick
Ghost Pirate LeChuck
Oct 15, 11:02am
$5 million a year? lol.
kimdaddy35
Oct 15, 10:09am
Program visibility would be unprecedented for BYU bball moving forward, so yes!
Das_Countach
Oct 14, 2:28pm
Its not my $8M, so sure
Projectoor
Oct 14, 12:07pm
This
OldFogey
Oct 14, 1:46pm
Exactly. And I can assure you, there are donors who are more than happy to help
Duke Silver
Oct 14, 1:49pm
It’s not really up to BYU. They can “discourage” but they can’t stop it other
NWCoug
Oct 14, 4:32pm
To make it clear, if my net worth was $1B+ this would be worth it for me
Projectoor
Oct 14, 1:50pm
Not the way a billionaire thinks. Try this instead...
xgbs
Oct 14, 2:08pm
Not saying I wouldn't do it this way with my imaginary $1B
Projectoor
Oct 14, 2:24pm
Do you see any evidence of NIL deals with payback clauses? (for big names)
ryebrye
Oct 14, 2:34pm
Its not presented in a positive light, but this article is only 4 days old...
xgbs
Oct 14, 2:52pm
same thing here...Perkins is an idiot and this will not fly.
ghettomagic
Oct 14, 2:55pm
Get real. AJ isn't doing that. Legit ideas have to make sense to both sides
DirtyWater
Oct 14, 2:35pm
Its not a loan. It's insurance.
xgbs
Oct 14, 2:55pm
Instead of money, let's offer him donuts. Yeah! That's the ticket!
DirtyWater
Oct 14, 2:57pm
Yeah, because if you get hurt the way Kyrie did, it could tank your draft stock to ... where was Kyrie drafted again?
krindorr
Oct 14, 4:20pm
Same year Enes Kanter didn't play at all. Ruled ineligible by NCAA for making $33,000 in Europe. Enes was #3 draft pick.
roseyscenario
Oct 14, 4:30pm
If I'm a sure-fire early draft pick, there's no chance I sign that sort of deal
krindorr
Oct 14, 4:19pm
So what do you usually do with your $8M-$9M?
TNT
Oct 14, 3:18pm
I'm fine if someone wants to donate. I just hope AJ gives the right answers
MajorZeus
Oct 14, 12:08pm
If I had to guess it is closer to $5 million. But of course BYU is where they
kimdaddy35
Oct 14, 12:09pm
I know $7-9 got tossed around by some talking heads, but the latest I had heard
inertiaman
Oct 14, 12:09pm
If he is projected at top pick and NBA star, a lot of the money could come from
Plato
Oct 14, 12:22pm
Dirt cheap marketing if he’s as good as advertised.
mulletino
Oct 14, 12:09pm
Agreed. Consider as part of the marketing budget.
Supercoug
Oct 14, 12:17pm
The best marketing is amazing product. True here as well.
Atmospheric_Cougar
Oct 14, 2:04pm
I’m sincerely interested in this answer
AustinCougar
Oct 14, 12:10pm
If someone has enough money where they are willing to donate millions to a school, why would that change
Baron
Oct 14, 12:13pm
A lot of people donate because they love the mission of BYU - for example, what
inertiaman
Oct 14, 12:13pm
People who have literally billions who like BYU and the basketball program.
kimdaddy35
Oct 14, 12:15pm
Maybe he does some national commercials for the $8MM?
2FarGone
Oct 14, 12:18pm
The Math
B Blue
Oct 14, 12:23pm
200k is a normal income for a person?
Cougar TD
Oct 14, 1:39pm
Per a quick Google search:
PumaFanatico
Oct 14, 2:08pm
200,000 for BYU Grad. 67,000 for Utah Grad.
baldcoug74
Oct 14, 2:12pm
My thoughts exactly
Boring
Oct 14, 3:12pm
That is incongruent math, comparing $200K annual income to $1B net worth.
roseyscenario
Oct 14, 2:41pm
Good point.
PumaFanatico
Oct 14, 2:50pm
it's not about this one player
Jimmy Rocket
Oct 14, 1:53pm
If donors are allowed to participate in NBA earnings, it gets
xgbs
Oct 14, 2:13pm
Dude. Come on.
DirtyWater
Oct 14, 2:38pm
You think it isn't happening?
xgbs
Oct 14, 3:03pm
The whole idea is stupid.
DirtyWater
Oct 14, 3:07pm
That happens...but that's a different sort of investment than paying a player to go to a certain school
krindorr
Oct 14, 6:22pm
Maybe more access to these superstars?
Hufflepuff
Oct 14, 9:40pm
Yes
Mostlyaccurate
Oct 14, 12:12pm
Yes 100%. The perception of the program landing the #1 recruit to build on the
Duke Silver
Oct 14, 12:14pm
Not saying AJ is MJ, but how much did North Carolina get out of MJ
Cougarclaw
Oct 14, 12:15pm
$8-9M
Indy Coug
Oct 14, 12:15pm
Anonymous donor or podcast chatter linked on CB about 10 times in the past 4 days?
kccougar
Oct 14, 12:16pm
Sat next to the donor on Saturday! He told me the ask is $8/$9MM
ghettomagic
Oct 14, 12:19pm
And he got it from a podcast.
kccougar
Oct 14, 12:41pm
Going to be some great hotel and survey commercials next year
WorfoSAUR
Oct 14, 12:18pm
If he's just after NIL $$$ then I'd pass. If you are going to be making 100X
GMGlenn
Oct 14, 12:49pm
AJ's dad was hyping it a couple of months ago to public media using those big numbers. He said then to ZAGSBLOG:
roseyscenario
Oct 14, 12:49pm
Yes, smart business decision. If Lebron James had come to BYU for 8M, the PR
Reasonable1
Oct 14, 12:55pm
He’s not probably going to be the next LeBron though
Ghost Pirate LeChuck
Oct 14, 1:46pm
50/50 chance. Either he is or he isn’t.
Reasonable1
Oct 14, 1:57pm
It depends on how much the people who pay value him.
Belboz
Oct 14, 1:00pm
Yes
runningryan
Oct 14, 1:10pm
Yes yes yes yes yes
Your Royal Blueness
Oct 14, 1:12pm
RE: Well, according to an anonymous donor…
rtl
Oct 14, 1:18pm
I have always said yes to spending other people's money
CougarCanuck76
Oct 14, 1:29pm
It's smart
cougforever
Oct 14, 1:34pm
Yes.... also I highly doubt it is that much
Cougar TD
Oct 14, 1:39pm
I don’t
Ghost Pirate LeChuck
Oct 14, 1:47pm
If he ends up being the next PG13 or KD
Ghost Pirate LeChuck
Oct 14, 1:45pm
Whatever the amount, hope he doesn't get a season ending injury in game 2.
BackPacker
Oct 14, 1:54pm
Those NIL are contingent upon playing a certain number of games.
Archaea
Oct 14, 2:03pm
That should be the case, but I understood such terms were not allowed.
BackPacker
Oct 14, 2:17pm
They get around it by
Archaea
Oct 14, 3:04pm
From an investment standpoint, no way. From a fan's standpoint, yes.
coolblue
Oct 14, 2:02pm
Thanks ghetto, we appreciate that.
Archaea
Oct 14, 2:02pm
If he ends up having an NBA All-Star type career, 9 million would be a bargain
Trappist1F
Oct 14, 2:19pm
Paul George, Jamal Murray, Tyrese Halliburton, Ja Morant, James Harden
krindorr
Oct 14, 6:28pm
This is a good point. I’m not even sure where lebron played
BaseCoug
Oct 14, 8:27pm
George, Morant, and Haliburton weren't heavily recruited out of high school.
Trappist1F
Oct 15, 1:11pm
It helps for sure... but I'm not sure Kawhi fundamentally transformed how SDSU is viewed
krindorr
Oct 15, 1:36pm
Parents and prospects know which programs put players in the NBA.
Trappist1F
Oct 15, 2:47pm
$4-5M might be closer to the truth
ninja math
Oct 14, 2:23pm
Agree; $9M was likely a bargaining ploy from AJ's team
Underhill
Oct 14, 3:35pm
It's like buying a super bowl ad.
MaxxPower
Oct 14, 2:46pm
Definitely smart - as long as it's not my money.
StantonMac
Oct 14, 2:47pm
I’m hearing some of our Big 12 apostles aren’t excited about paying this much.
Veep
Oct 14, 2:52pm
Why?? If it's Ryan smith's money, why would that be frowned on?
Preppy
Oct 14, 2:57pm
Because they traditionally don't like athletics being a "golden calf"
TNT
Oct 14, 3:20pm
To a degree...but they know full well the good sports does to the Church's visibility and missionary efforts. Undeniable
Preppy
Oct 14, 4:03pm
Well current leadership embraces it more than they did in the past
TNT
Oct 14, 5:05pm
I seriously doubt they care one way or the other. They have other things to worry about. Sports aren't something they
AltTabbins
Oct 14, 3:16pm
So long as athletics is financially independent and viable, and representing BYU and the Church, I doubt anyone is
Preppy
Oct 14, 3:18pm
They used to avoid this stuff at all costs
TNT
Oct 14, 3:20pm
They still do. Its not a priority for them at all, they leave it to Holmoe.
AltTabbins
Oct 14, 3:23pm
They used to actively stop it. So this is big progress for them
TNT
Oct 14, 3:25pm
You mean like, paying coaches top dollar? HCs got paid through Coaches Circle. Now that B12 revenue is up, BYU is
Preppy
Oct 14, 3:34pm
Donors used to be limited in what the University would accept
TNT
Oct 14, 5:06pm
I'm sure they aren't. On the other hand, they've allowed what we have thus far. I'm sure results will be the
Bob Vance
Oct 14, 4:00pm
Paying a player 10 million dollars to come here just isn’t in line with the
Veep
Oct 14, 8:54pm
No, you're not.
Dark Forest Green
Oct 14, 6:09pm
Smartest NIL investment yet. It has potential to impact the program for decades.
AltTabbins
Oct 14, 3:15pm
Think of the NBA. His name will always be associated with BYU
TNT
Oct 14, 3:17pm
Yes, a transcendent player for the program that we can all cheer on in the NBA
jlangager
Oct 14, 3:34pm
It's not my money, so fantastic business move!
zonacougar
Oct 14, 4:11pm
ROI from a merch/ticket/etc has gotta be there, even for one season
IGlowInTheDark
Oct 14, 4:18pm
I doubt he gets that much but I am sure his agent leaked that it would take that
Socrates Johnson
Oct 14, 4:23pm
It's a buyers market. Not stepping up means kiss goodbye any other 5*s
Michicoug
Oct 14, 4:25pm
Good deal for a Final Four appearance
BYUvermont
Oct 14, 4:27pm
No. The tail is already wagging the dog too much.
Threw and Through
Oct 14, 4:30pm
But the dog, assuming he is a great player, will always have "BYU" to his name
TNT
Oct 14, 5:06pm
NIL (read as Greed) will ruin college sports
CT98
Oct 14, 6:00pm
Will?? Already has.
BYUDM93
Oct 14, 8:16pm
$9M might make sense... but if we have $9M to spend couldn't we find 2 guys who are ranked 10th or so in the class and
HarlemCoug
Oct 14, 6:40pm
I think it's the longer term branding plan: BYU/KY is the #1 path to NBA lottery pick. Land a couple of big ones early
roseyscenario
Oct 14, 7:52pm
RE: Well, according to an anonymous donor…
Sofaj
Oct 14, 10:38pm
Save it for Jay Hill!
Burton162
Oct 14, 11:14pm
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