But we aren't on equal footing with the P2...

Jul 26, 2024
7:57:08am

Baylorbears11 Contributor

The question is "How do we get closer?" and "how do we grow our own value?".

If adding FSU/Clemson gets us closer to the P2 footing, then is that a worthwhile investment?

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B12 pays FSU/Clemson but BYU still makes more and gets better games? Deal.

Dr MoBYU

Jul 26, 7:39am

It wreaks of small time. If we want to act like we are equal footing with P2

Medute

Jul 26, 7:49am

But we aren't on equal footing with the P2...

Baylorbears11

Jul 26, 7:57am

It’s not adding them. It’s renting them with an end to the lease in 5 years

Medute

Jul 26, 8:00am

What it's doing is killing the ACC and putting the Big 12 as the clear number 3

finnish_blue

Jul 26, 8:04am

You can kill the ACC by grabbing teams who will stick around

Medute

Jul 26, 8:10am

Here's why you consider the rental model. Utah "rented" Urban Meyer for 2 years,

ldssdl

Jul 26, 9:55am

Bingo!

1CougFan

Jul 26, 10:16am

I understand what you are saying, but…

Medute

Jul 26, 11:11am

It does elevate our status long term.

ldssdl

Jul 26, 12:13pm

I know CB lives relationship analogies so here's one

downtownchrisbrown

Jul 26, 12:23pm

Actually, there are lots of examples of this

Medute

Jul 26, 12:31pm

I mean, if she were in another league above you financially and social circles,

ldssdl

Jul 26, 2:04pm

So you actually think that the Big 12 chose the four corners over UO and UW?

CameronG

Jul 26, 12:23pm

No, renting the other schools wasn’t an option

Medute

Jul 26, 12:51pm

Your previous comment makes it sound like that's what the Big 12 did

CameronG

Jul 26, 1:03pm

RE: Your previous comment makes it sound like that's what the Big 12 did

Medute

Jul 26, 1:21pm

The problem is nobody thinks we are even close to the p2

spidercoug

Jul 26, 7:57am

Rent them. Beat them. Make more $. Prove self. Nobody sees us as P2 anyway.

Dr MoBYU

Jul 26, 8:06am

We wouldn’t beat them. Just like the Big12 didn’t beat Oklahoma/Texas much.

Medute

Jul 26, 8:12am

Exactly. So who cares? I’d love to play those games. I’m not going to front.

Dr MoBYU

Jul 26, 8:14am

I care. We have a better path to the CFP right now. We should all care

Medute

Jul 26, 8:23am

Our chances of getting to CFP are the same with or without Clemson and FSU.

Dr MoBYU

Jul 26, 9:58am

No they are not. It’s two more teams with far more resources

Medute

Jul 26, 11:13am

Winning the B12 gets you a better seed.

Dr MoBYU

Jul 26, 1:06pm

That's rather delusional. We're not on the same footing as the P2.

tacallaway

Jul 26, 10:33am

PSA: Never take conference valuation advice from a yewt

stoils

Jul 26, 10:52am

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ABCoug

Jul 26, 12:44pm

Sounds like a short term outcome. Would you still do it if the Big 12 forfeits

Loafer

Jul 26, 8:37am

Enjoy the realignment train everyone!

runningryan

Jul 26, 9:23am

In Brett Yormark we trust. Whatever happens, I trust he'll elevate the Big12.

ldssdl

Jul 26, 9:35am

I’m not ready to trust him yet. I’ve been hurt before.

Medute

Jul 26, 9:53am

Can't say I blame you, when you're used to Larry Scott.

ldssdl

Jul 26, 9:56am

You also have to wonder if Yormark looked good because of his opponent

Medute

Jul 26, 11:15am

Giving a loan or paying off other's debts does not breed loyalty

downtownchrisbrown

Jul 26, 9:44am

When it comes to the P2, loyalty really doesn't matter

tacallaway

Jul 26, 10:21am

Hot take- P2 will never happen...too many good HS players come out of HS each yr

Das_Countach

Jul 26, 10:29am

I don't think the P2 ever breaks away either, but there's still a glass ceiling.

tacallaway

Jul 26, 10:36am

What are you watching?! It is well underway. Not if, but when.

CallSign

Jul 26, 10:43am

Too many good players to only consolidate across 40 schools w/ 22 starting spots

Das_Countach

Jul 26, 10:46am

That's like arguing there's more Protestant billionaires than LDS billionaires as evidence LDS people aren't successful

krindorr

Jul 26, 4:23pm

Not likely. It's more profitable for the P2 to keep paying us pennies.

tacallaway

Jul 26, 10:52am

B12 is shifting chairs at the kids table and might be shifting deck chairs on

CallSign

Jul 26, 11:40am

Right, there's a P2 and then there's the best of what's left.

tacallaway

Jul 26, 11:45am

…might be the case for someone that doesn’t think very deeply

Das_Countach

Jul 26, 1:53pm

Thinking the player pool will dictate number of power conferences and teams may

CallSign

Jul 26, 2:40pm

yeah, that's why Vanderbilt and Illinois and Indiana are such powerhouses, haha

Das_Countach

Jul 26, 4:13pm

We've got to be real, next big round of realignment happens ~2030-31 anyway

Das_Countach

Jul 26, 10:23am

Why in the world would FSU and Clemson leave the ACC for the Big XII?

Tango

Jul 26, 11:15am

Can’t we all just be a bit happy with what and who we’re with. Trading Wake,

Tango

Jul 26, 11:19am

Especially when it is about money. Maybe get a little more from the Big 12

TNT

Jul 26, 4:18pm

I'm very much in agreement .... IF this is what happens

krindorr

Jul 26, 5:15pm

Seems like a massive headache to break even

downtownchrisbrown

Jul 26, 5:22pm

Agreed, not worth the effort for break-even

krindorr

Jul 26, 6:45pm

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