Clearplay is different and amounts to simple fast forward/rewind features on DVD

Jan 25, 2022
9:38:03am

Nikomedes B+

and Blu-ray which are fine. Quite different from what we were talking about in VidAngel, which attempts to alter streaming content.

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Nikomedes

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The problem in editing movies/TV without permission is that you do not own them.

Nikomedes

1/25/22 9:20am

False

FrankenCoug

1/25/22 9:22am

Have you read the text of the Act itself? It allows only “imperceptible” changes

Nikomedes

1/25/22 9:32am

I have not. I just know clearplay is legal despite whatever you are saying.

FrankenCoug

1/25/22 9:34am

Clearplay is clearly legal, and has a long track record and precedent.

runnincoug

1/25/22 9:37am

Clearplay is different and amounts to simple fast forward/rewind features on DVD

Nikomedes

1/25/22 9:38am

VidAngel and ClearPlay are both just fast forwards and mutes

The Shazad

1/25/22 9:40am

This ... Vidangel changed their technology.

runnincoug

1/25/22 9:44am

Clearplay does streaming now as well. I know a group was working

FrankenCoug

1/25/22 9:44am

"making imperceptible" focuses on the *viewer*, not the changes to the movie

Doogal McCougar

1/25/22 10:10am

Yep and don't you dare skip forward or rewind. If they wanted the movie to jump around like that they would have filmed

supertux

1/25/22 9:22am

Fast forwarding and rewinding are specific exemptions in the Act. Removing and

Nikomedes

1/25/22 9:35am

Oh good because Vidangel just skips forward and mutes. Both of which are legitimate. Nice!

supertux

1/25/22 9:38am

It does not. It alters the streaming file

Nikomedes

1/25/22 9:41am

No, it doesn't.

supertux

1/25/22 9:42am

It's not removed. It's just skipped, the same as hitting +10 secs.

cracka

1/25/22 9:39am

In your story of the book, once I buy it I can modify as I wish. Once I pay for Netflix there is no harm in removing

eirek1234

1/25/22 9:26am

Yeah, his example is backward. You can cut up a painting or book you own.

runnincoug

1/25/22 9:32am

Do what you wish to your own copy of the book, but you do not own the content.

Nikomedes

1/25/22 9:41am

I can pay a neighbor to cut up my novel if I want, which is the same as paying

runnincoug

1/25/22 9:45am

What an awful take - wow.

Swish

1/25/22 9:31am

Its semantics. Are they editing? Or skipping? Eg. fast forwarding.

Dr MoBYU

1/25/22 9:35am

Disney and the big studios have no problem altering content for China or Saudis

novacoug1

1/25/22 9:43am

And again, those are edits authorized by the companies

Nikomedes

1/25/22 9:44am

I think VidAngel is dumb, but if the content owners are being compensated, great

fulano

1/25/22 9:46am

You must have a valid Netflix, Prime, Apple+ subscription to watch on VidAngel

Doogal McCougar

1/25/22 10:15am

I haven’t pirated music since I was in college. Not even close to “most of my

russkiejedi

1/25/22 10:47am

So if I only watch half of the movie it's unethical?

ochobeeguy

1/25/22 9:48am

How much are the studios paying you to shill for them?

MetaLearner

1/25/22 10:00am

The purpose is to just make fun of people who don't want nudity and swearing

novacoug1

1/25/22 10:04am

Such a weird reason to look down on others. "Hey you, watch more smut!"

runnincoug

1/25/22 10:10am

It’s actually possible to be someone who wants to avoid those things while also

russkiejedi

1/25/22 10:46am

Interesting. I’m the exact opposite

MormonDevil

1/25/22 11:21am

You are however allowed to buy a Stephen King book and mark it up all you want for your own personal use.

Bob Vance

1/25/22 10:09am

You could even hire someone to mark up the book for you

Doogal McCougar

1/25/22 10:18am

End users can extensively mod games to remove and add content and it’s totally

russkiejedi

1/25/22 10:28am

That’s just one of those laws patriots don’t need to follow

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