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PAC 12 network did that for them. Ha-ha.
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Finally chiming in on TV ratings. Kudos to Krindorr for gathering..
BamaCoug
12/2/23 1:27am
Solid assessment
krindorr
12/2/23 2:04am
Agree that BYU being a top showing IS NOT GOOD for the conference
kiyoshige
12/2/23 6:03am
Honestly, there's no competing with the B1G/SEC with viewership at this point...
BamaCoug
12/2/23 8:23am
Over half of TCU's number was the CU game, correct?
Corn Pop
12/2/23 5:58am
Not over half, but about 43%
krindorr
12/2/23 6:07am
It blows me away that BYU was that close to Utah
cougforever
12/2/23 6:17am
We had a game on ESPN+. As in 1. They had, what, 4 or 5 on the P12 network?
Corn Pop
12/2/23 6:22am
Which speaks to how the networks view Utes' TV draw on their own. They don't put
BamaCoug
12/2/23 8:20am
Yup, Utah was consistently around the middle of the PAC in PAC12 Network appearances
krindorr
12/2/23 8:44am
BYU had 11 games on Fox or ESPN/ABC platforms; Utah had 7.
Everyman
12/2/23 6:35am
I don't see that as Utah having "superior" viewership though. It's more a factor
BamaCoug
12/2/23 8:35am
100% - this is a factor that people don't seem to understand
krindorr
12/2/23 8:49am
PAC 12 network did that for them. Ha-ha.
coolblue
12/2/23 7:04am
Yep. USC/UW/Oregon weren't on Pac12N much, but Utes were on it a lot. Why?...
BamaCoug
12/2/23 8:40am
The main driver for viewings is brand. BYU will never be real high nor real low
coolblue
12/2/23 7:04am
Utah does not have a better brand than BYU…
NorCal_Coug
12/2/23 7:24am
That is your opinion. However by measurable metrics i.e. tv viewership, merch
Utefaninenemyland
12/2/23 7:48am
I'd say they're pretty close albeit in different ways
krindorr
12/2/23 8:10am
But here's the real unpopular opinion
krindorr
12/2/23 8:14am
We’ll see how Utah draws without Oregon, Washington, USC, and UCLA on schedule.
NorCal_Coug
12/2/23 8:26am
This is my worry, actually. I can be realistic - Utah is an ok draw but not a
kos
12/2/23 9:10am
The gulf you speak of already exists.
NorCal_Coug
12/2/23 9:21am
Sure, agreed - the gulf is already there. But I'm worried that even if we can
kos
12/2/23 9:28am
What i find interesting and will be watching to see how it plays out is that
MojosDojo
12/2/23 10:02am
Ya, good point. I've wondered something similar, but then wonder if the B12 and
kos
12/2/23 11:59am
Absolutely right. The B12 and ACC are fighting for their lives with every game
NewBYUfannonLDS
12/2/23 2:30pm
Guys… the dye was cast on this when Texas/OU left and 4 best PAC brands left…
BamaCoug
12/2/23 10:15am
Not really…. It’s fact.
NorCal_Coug
12/2/23 8:24am
Krindorr gets it, you do not. His points are well thought out using reason and
Utefaninenemyland
12/2/23 8:29am
LOL…. You can thank Florida, Colorado, USC, Oregon, and Washington for that.
NorCal_Coug
12/2/23 8:36am
The worst Utah drew in any game was 1.3M; no need to bury our heads in the sand and pretend nobody watches
krindorr
12/2/23 8:48am
Ohhhhh, 1.3? Move over Alabama!!!
NorCal_Coug
12/2/23 9:06am
Like I said, not amazing or elite, but solid, not the low end either
krindorr
12/2/23 9:11am
I've lived east of the Mississippi most of my life and I can't remember ever
thewaterboy
12/2/23 8:31am
I spent most of my life there as well. Still get asked if Utah is in the WAC.
NorCal_Coug
12/2/23 8:36am
You must not venture out of your bubble much, then. It's not like it's an
kos
12/2/23 9:15am
I think I've seen 2 Ute shirts in 40 years. And, no, I don't live at church.
thewaterboy
12/2/23 9:18am
Please share your metrics on merch sales and NIL figures. We will wait…
Atmospheric_Cougar
12/2/23 9:27am
Neither Utah or BYU are 8n the top 25 of merch sales. The most recent list i
Utefaninenemyland
12/2/23 9:54am
So you don’t have any facts to backup your claim. Got it. Any other made up
Atmospheric_Cougar
12/2/23 10:37am
By conference affiliation I’d say they are pretty much equal.
kiyoshige
12/2/23 11:34am
“Never” is a strong word. If BYU breaks through and has an undefeated season/
BamaCoug
12/2/23 10:10am
Take out the Oklahoma and Texas game and byu was horrible this year. That sucks
davidmj10
12/2/23 9:12am
Yet still better viewership than nearly everyone else remaining in the Big12…
BamaCoug
12/2/23 10:07am
True but my expectations were higher. BYU played a lot of network games.
davidmj10
12/2/23 10:26am
Will be interesting to see how the numbers for the BB team if they stay ranked.
LateToTheGame
12/2/23 9:24am
Meh… BB just isn’t a big draw even with good teams/ranked opponents. Outside of
BamaCoug
12/2/23 10:09am
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