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Jan 25, 2022
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russkiejedi
Intervention Needed
It’s actually possible to be someone who wants to avoid those things while also
recognizing the ways it’s problematic legally, creatively, and even morally.
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The problem in editing movies/TV without permission is that you do not own them.
Nikomedes
1/25/22 9:20am
False
FrankenCoug
1/25/22 9:22am
Have you read the text of the Act itself? It allows only “imperceptible” changes
Nikomedes
1/25/22 9:32am
I have not. I just know clearplay is legal despite whatever you are saying.
FrankenCoug
1/25/22 9:34am
Clearplay is clearly legal, and has a long track record and precedent.
runnincoug
1/25/22 9:37am
Clearplay is different and amounts to simple fast forward/rewind features on DVD
Nikomedes
1/25/22 9:38am
VidAngel and ClearPlay are both just fast forwards and mutes
The Shazad
1/25/22 9:40am
This ... Vidangel changed their technology.
runnincoug
1/25/22 9:44am
Clearplay does streaming now as well. I know a group was working
FrankenCoug
1/25/22 9:44am
"making imperceptible" focuses on the *viewer*, not the changes to the movie
Doogal McCougar
1/25/22 10:10am
Yep and don't you dare skip forward or rewind. If they wanted the movie to jump around like that they would have filmed
supertux
1/25/22 9:22am
Fast forwarding and rewinding are specific exemptions in the Act. Removing and
Nikomedes
1/25/22 9:35am
Oh good because Vidangel just skips forward and mutes. Both of which are legitimate. Nice!
supertux
1/25/22 9:38am
It does not. It alters the streaming file
Nikomedes
1/25/22 9:41am
No, it doesn't.
supertux
1/25/22 9:42am
It's not removed. It's just skipped, the same as hitting +10 secs.
cracka
1/25/22 9:39am
In your story of the book, once I buy it I can modify as I wish. Once I pay for Netflix there is no harm in removing
eirek1234
1/25/22 9:26am
Yeah, his example is backward. You can cut up a painting or book you own.
runnincoug
1/25/22 9:32am
Do what you wish to your own copy of the book, but you do not own the content.
Nikomedes
1/25/22 9:41am
I can pay a neighbor to cut up my novel if I want, which is the same as paying
runnincoug
1/25/22 9:45am
What an awful take - wow.
Swish
1/25/22 9:31am
Its semantics. Are they editing? Or skipping? Eg. fast forwarding.
Dr MoBYU
1/25/22 9:35am
Disney and the big studios have no problem altering content for China or Saudis
novacoug1
1/25/22 9:43am
And again, those are edits authorized by the companies
Nikomedes
1/25/22 9:44am
I think VidAngel is dumb, but if the content owners are being compensated, great
fulano
1/25/22 9:46am
You must have a valid Netflix, Prime, Apple+ subscription to watch on VidAngel
Doogal McCougar
1/25/22 10:15am
I haven’t pirated music since I was in college. Not even close to “most of my
russkiejedi
1/25/22 10:47am
So if I only watch half of the movie it's unethical?
ochobeeguy
1/25/22 9:48am
How much are the studios paying you to shill for them?
MetaLearner
1/25/22 10:00am
The purpose is to just make fun of people who don't want nudity and swearing
novacoug1
1/25/22 10:04am
Such a weird reason to look down on others. "Hey you, watch more smut!"
runnincoug
1/25/22 10:10am
It’s actually possible to be someone who wants to avoid those things while also
russkiejedi
1/25/22 10:46am
Interesting. I’m the exact opposite
MormonDevil
1/25/22 11:21am
You are however allowed to buy a Stephen King book and mark it up all you want for your own personal use.
Bob Vance
1/25/22 10:09am
You could even hire someone to mark up the book for you
Doogal McCougar
1/25/22 10:18am
End users can extensively mod games to remove and add content and it’s totally
russkiejedi
1/25/22 10:28am
That’s just one of those laws patriots don’t need to follow
spinner
1/25/22 11:25am
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