I’m not in the QB room or on the headset, but could it be that the play had

Nov 17, 2024
3:51:32pm

Reasonable1 Truly Addicted User

multiple options or reads, and Retzlaff chose to go there after making the wrong read? Or did Retzlaff audible into it? Maybe the fade wasn’t the intended play, or not the first option.

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Gonna take a long time for me to forgive that outrageous corner-fade call. Cost

PGVikingDad

1:08pm

And very poorly executed.

Brigham

1:10pm

Like epically

Big12Yfan

1:11pm

He actually does it all the time on intermediate throws. Balls in the dirt where

russkiejedi

5:19pm

Isn’t that part of why it was such a bad call? Jake never throws fades well.

NonmormonYfan89

4:23pm

This is literally the only problem. Arod makes fine calls, he’s just

Polecat

5:17pm

Even spiking the ball there, they were scrambling like

novacoug1

1:10pm

Yes, we seemed panicked. We had time and time-outs, yet spiked the ball wasting

Brigham

1:11pm

It seemed like overhang from terrible clock management last week. Rather than practicing how to do it right

BYU Tar Heel

8:12pm

That spike nearly killed me, too. Such incompetence, and a Twilight Zone repeat

PGVikingDad

1:11pm

They've had some epic last minute comebacks, but two epic failures at the end of

jaba166

6:26pm

I could forgive it if we go on a 6 game win streak now. I'll eat a beefy 5 layer burrito with my face if we do it.

foofcoug

1:11pm

You mean 7 game? I doubt we get a bye now.

AZPTCOUG

1:11pm

That'd be a bonus. I'm fine losing in the Finals. Don't want to be too greedy.

foofcoug

1:13pm

You think winning the BigXII CCG won’t get us the four seed? BSU would not get

BYUHgrad

1:24pm

Maybe if Boise is undefeated with only loss to #1 undefeated Oregon.

AZPTCOUG

1:27pm

I still highly doubt the committee will look at BSU that way. PTSD CB does not

BYUHgrad

1:40pm

If we win out, we will highly likely be ahead of 2 of ACC, MWC and AAC champs

NYC and Japan

2:17pm

Winning conference championship would likely give us two more top 25 wins and

cwilke1

2:27pm

Eat THE beefy 5-layer burrito, and I'll be impressed.

PGVikingDad

1:13pm

RE: Eat THE beefy 5-layer burrito, and I'll be impressed.

foofcoug

1:16pm

Has it been confirmed if Jake changed Aron’s call to the fade?

Traveshamockery

1:12pm

Confirmed he made the wrong read

niqmadu

4:50pm

Oh I rage cussed when it happened and I'm still really ticked off about it

Coug

1:13pm

I was yelling at the TV the moment I recognized a pass play developing. Just the

PGVikingDad

1:15pm

Same. My son typically is quiet during the game and he was really ticked also

Coug

1:24pm

It’s been years since I yelled after a play. Surprised myself by doing it again.

Albuq_Coug

8:21pm

W have too many good players to throw a high risk play to a lowly used player

NYCougz

1:14pm

This is one of the most bizarre sports fan cliches, to me. Do people really feel

shoganai

1:16pm

Kalani talked about this early on in the year, after Jake had some interception

Stopper6700

1:38pm

Yup, I have to agree. 1st and goal at the 5, and we've got 40 seconds and

jaba166

1:25pm

Yeah, LJ was over 7 YPC in 1H and we don’t run from the 5, with 2 timeouts. dumb

dtownCoug

1:28pm

Makes you wonder why we didn't try to milk clock that time, instead of at the

jaba166

6:14pm

Chase Roberts said in post game that they love the play and had the matchup but Jake missed the pass. Jake said same.

GoodBetterBestBYU

2:33pm

Receivers will always love a pass play. We should have ran it three times

GSwarriorcoug

2:36pm

Like at the end of the game? I don’t mind the call Honestly, that SHOULD be a

akmewg

3:09pm

Yep Jake owned it

GoodBetterBestBYU

3:13pm

1st down from the 5 in a tie game knowing you are going to get

GSwarriorcoug

3:28pm

Wouldn’t have needed 3 runs.

dtownCoug

3:49pm

I agree.

GSwarriorcoug

3:55pm

Fade is never a good play. Best-case scenario, it's a 50/50 jump ball.

fredgarvin

3:40pm

Never ? That’s just silly.

Polecat

5:17pm

Most teams disagree. Great play with right matchups and good throw.

GoodBetterBestBYU

6:47pm

Still a low-percentage play. You're hoping for a jump ball.

fredgarvin

6:54pm

Higher percentage if you have the matchup. We did. I think it’s a low percentage play with Jake so should be shelved

GoodBetterBestBYU

7:04pm

Ta'ase is a blocking tight end. He never has the matchup.

fredgarvin

7:05pm

3 tds out of 7 catches. He has good hands too.

GoodBetterBestBYU

7:17pm

None of his catches required anywhere near that level of skill as a receiver.

fredgarvin

7:24pm

Thrown well to a 6’5 receiver over a 5’10 DB shouldn’t be hard or be an incompletion. He wasn’t the problem, Jake’s pass

GoodBetterBestBYU

7:27pm

Chase is acting the part of a great leader and not throwing people under bus

cajuncoug

5:39pm

Well he pointed out that Jake missed it.

KYU

8:45pm

Were there multiple Chase interviews?

cajuncoug

8:56pm

Very common play call at all levels. Poor throw. Chase acknowledged that Jake missed the throw. I don’t think

KYU

9:05pm

Here you go

cajuncoug

9:15pm

Roberts also said it was the wrong read. There was a much better option.

Accipiter

6:33pm

He said it was the right read and matchup just didn’t get there and was kind in saying, “DB made a great play”

GoodBetterBestBYU

6:48pm

It’s wasn’t the call. It was the throw that was the problem.

yapacoug

3:22pm

Totally true. Might be a great play but not for Jake.

GoodBetterBestBYU

3:26pm

True. But when that throw looked exactly the same as it did on other fades that

Crowd Factor

3:48pm

It is 1000% the play call. And also a terrible pass

cajuncoug

5:45pm

And the read. Jake should have looked left and throw the fade to the right.

BYUHgrad

6:55pm

Especially with Marion wide open in the middle of the field.

idcougarfan

3:23pm

I'm more upset by 10 on the field for Kansas first TD

PastyGangsta

3:50pm

I’m not in the QB room or on the headset, but could it be that the play had

Reasonable1

3:51pm

Could be. If so, replace the fade with another route

deliciousmocha

5:12pm

Most plays have multiple options. Chase said they liked the matchup. Bad throw. It happens.

GoodBetterBestBYU

6:50pm

RE: Most plays have multiple options. Chase said they liked the matchup. Bad

Reasonable1

6:54pm

If Jake throws it like he is supposed to, you wouldn’t be thinking about ARod at all. Ball needs to be thrown to a spot

TheLoneCougar

4:12pm

Correct

GoodBetterBestBYU

6:50pm

From what understand is there were 4 options on that play. Jake chose the fade

ColonelMustard

4:15pm

Fade is suppose to be outside and high. Low risk

Bobmarleyjr

5:09pm

Coaching malpractice. But no accountability. Was a fireable bad call by ARod

fan32

5:29pm

TIC right? This call with this matchup is made all the time. Bad execution is all. Sheesh.

GoodBetterBestBYU

6:51pm

Teams throw fades to their blocking tight ends in that situation "all the time"?

fredgarvin

6:59pm

He’s had 7 catches this year 3 of which are TDs and is a huge body. Not a bad bet if QB can make the pass.

GoodBetterBestBYU

7:06pm

Spoiler alert: he can't.

fredgarvin

7:07pm

Agreed, take it out of his repertoire.

GoodBetterBestBYU

7:18pm

Then every OC in college and the pros should be fired. Is it a bad call because Jake can’t make the throw????

KYU

8:47pm

Some people believe things are bad calls because of bad outcomes. Coaches look at practice, data, matchups, timing…

GoodBetterBestBYU

9:23pm

Forgive? This one blows right past 70 x 7

cajuncoug

6:33pm

Yup! Given the implications and BYU's opportunity to have a once in 40 year kind

jaba166

6:48pm

You've never made a mistake?

rockyrd

7:13pm

That is a play used by team at all levels in that exact situation. Why are you so upset at the call & not the execution

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