Right. For all those reasons you will do just fine in independence.

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Feb 28, 2023
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kiyoshige

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To you Yewt sympathizers, who want them in the BIG12…

Pope of Provo 3rd String

2/26/23 7:54pm

Who wants them in the Big12? Let's identify them and fight them together!

CougarCanuck76

2/26/23 7:56pm

Hear that? Reveal yourselves!!!

Pope of Provo

2/26/23 7:58pm

Me, I harbor no ill will to the Utes... when they play BYU, I want them all to suffer, otherwise, I root for them, they

ChinaFan

2/26/23 8:20pm

<< Deleted >>

sah22

2/26/23 8:30pm

You've got courage, ChinaFan. And for that, thumbs up. 😎

Ushuaia

2/26/23 9:17pm

I used to be admire their accomplishments and was even jealous but the revelation...

BYU Grounds

2/26/23 9:50pm

I want them to become the kid brother to USU…

Y-Meister

2/27/23 3:25am

I don't think so!

Snipe

2/27/23 8:02am

I want them in, too. After 10 years of them being in the PAC MWC

kiyoshige

2/28/23 8:43pm

Before I make my opinion, how do you feel when US competes against China?

sah22

3/1/23 1:02pm

in business? in sports (WC, Olympics)? life in general? Answers below

ChinaFan

3/1/23 7:09pm

Ha, I just meant sports and I'm glad we can agree. It was fun to read the rest.

sah22

3/1/23 8:32pm

I want them in. I want to play them every year and beat them every year.

Lefty24

2/26/23 9:05pm

I hope that we have already played our last game against the U of U.

SageOwl

2/27/23 12:47am

The Rivalry is in the past now. No need for them in the future.

WJCougar

2/26/23 7:58pm

I don’t really want them in BIG 12 but I don’t want no rivalry. It is one of the

fulano

2/26/23 8:06pm

Ute fans and Ute Admin ruined it. Let them go be in their own world...

WJCougar

2/26/23 8:22pm

The market for competitive programs

TFL

2/26/23 8:21pm

Utes will never understand that you don't win your way into a better conference.

tacallaway

2/26/23 8:23pm

The world is not a meritocracy

akbarishiwatsu

2/26/23 11:18pm

The Big12 is already competitve top to bottom

CougarCanuck76

2/26/23 8:36pm

If the Big 12's calling card is competitive top to bottom, all the more reason why Utah would be a top target

TFL

2/26/23 10:21pm

When's the last time Utah beat a non PAC12 P5 team?

davidsonlaw

2/26/23 11:42pm

Nah...comments like this tweet are more commonplace.

TFL

2/27/23 12:57am

Matters SO MUCH

davidsonlaw

2/27/23 3:05am

It's not the article. It's just the tweet and where he categorized the Utah football program

TFL

2/27/23 10:53am

The point stands unopposed

davidsonlaw

2/27/23 4:58pm

This is nonsense. Ute fans care about Utah. Look at how many showed up in Las Vegas and Pasadena.Utah went to final four

TFL

2/27/23 11:52pm

bull pucky

davidsonlaw

2/28/23 2:15am

Utah is not a shoo-in, they have a decent to pretty good chance

CameronG

2/28/23 10:22am

BYU already smashed one P5 conference, yours.

Brandoblueblood

2/28/23 4:58pm

Yeah, that lost its savor when they got crushed in Eugene, gotta win in the tough venues to claim "smashing".

TFL

2/28/23 7:51pm

Camp Randall, Memorial, DKR, Neyland and the Coliseum come to mind.

kiyoshige

2/28/23 8:48pm

All great wins. No hate. But barely beating mediocre teams by a missed PAT or one play is not the same as BYU vs.

TFL

2/28/23 9:37pm

I am the first to concede Utah excellence on the field has been much better

kiyoshige

2/28/23 10:43pm

Well said

TFL

3/1/23 1:23am

Now that we are not on the DI budget I think we can follow Utah's blueprint

kiyoshige

3/1/23 6:48am

That's so cool. Totally agree. That's why I've never really understood members who knock BYU

TFL

3/1/23 2:12pm

Except that 5-1 stretch also came with a dominating win against Utah.

Brandoblueblood

3/1/23 2:28pm

Nah, going 5-1 is still a smashing. Ha, gotta win in Eugene...

Brandoblueblood

3/1/23 2:27pm

It's legit. I rooted for BYU half those games. Loved the ASU ending. How can you not be a fan of that guy?

TFL

3/1/23 8:39pm

If that's the case, why not try independence? See how the market treats

kiyoshige

2/27/23 6:52am

Because Utah makes more money outperforming within their conference. Big 12, Pac 12, ACC all can benefit

TFL

2/27/23 4:24pm

I think most people recognize PAC is a Poser

Brandoblueblood

2/27/23 8:10pm

Nah...that's just BYU fan logic

TFL

2/27/23 8:14pm

Lots of "nahs" from you. Drinking away your sorrows?

Brandoblueblood

2/28/23 8:05am

Just on silly comments. Pac had half the conference in the top 20 and will have the same half start next season ranked

TFL

2/28/23 7:49pm

Based on what wins, against themelves? We all can see those rankings were infla

Brandoblueblood

3/1/23 8:36am

Was Utah more valuable than BYU in the WAC/MWC?

kiyoshige

2/27/23 11:05pm

The viewership, conference take down money and credibility of Utah's BCS runs (and TCU's) had far more impact

TFL

2/28/23 8:06pm

Right. So take it to independence. See how you survive that.

kiyoshige

2/28/23 8:50pm

What kind of deal would ESPN give?

davidsonlaw

2/28/23 9:10pm

BYU just finished 11th win a magical 1-loss season. Utah finished 11th and 10th with 4 losses. Who has brand

TFL

2/28/23 9:41pm

Right. For all those reasons you will do just fine in independence.

kiyoshige

2/28/23 10:44pm

Like going to the swamp and beating a 7-6 Florida team ... oh wait ...

davidsonlaw

2/28/23 11:42pm

6-7

CameronG

3/1/23 10:55am

Tha PACs bigotry was the only factor, otherwise they'd have invited other

Brandoblueblood

2/28/23 10:41pm

Yeah, they hated mormons so they took...Utah. Lol. If Utah was flash in the pan

TFL

3/1/23 1:27am

With that resume and an unlimited ceiling you would think every media outlet

kiyoshige

3/1/23 6:55am

No because utah has a small fanbase, inherent limitations and had to earn their way to a P5 and then produce

TFL

3/1/23 2:14pm

Uh. You know the BCS was temporary right? Success only in the BCS=flash in pan

Brandoblueblood

3/1/23 11:05am

Gotta live in your era. BYU was relevant in the WAC. Not in the MWC. Boise the same. Both Utah and TCU

TFL

3/1/23 8:22pm

Relevance is so much more than on field success.

kiyoshige

3/1/23 9:17pm

Our opposition to or support of the Utes to the B12...

Ushuaia

2/26/23 8:51pm

This is such a lame ideology, similar to betting against your team.

tacallaway

2/26/23 9:04pm

Yep.

Ushuaia

2/26/23 9:05pm

No Cougs WANT them in. But it’s delusional to say they won’t be in.

canofpicante

2/26/23 10:03pm

They're a good TV draw the last two seasons when they're in national games

tacallaway

2/26/23 10:15pm

I’m not talking about hypotheticals. Im talking about now. We can say what we

canofpicante

2/26/23 10:24pm

How is normalizing TV ratings "hypotheticals"?

tacallaway

2/26/23 10:39pm

We don’t know what anyone’s TV ratings will be in the future.

canofpicante

2/27/23 12:33am

Sure, then look at the past. Outside the last two years, ratings were mediocre.

tacallaway

2/27/23 9:20am

this is the reality of the situation

kiyoshige

2/27/23 6:55am

Absolutely the best explanation and how each of us should view the Utes.

LateToTheGame

2/27/23 1:19am

Why I don’t want Utah in B12

HudspethEra

2/27/23 6:53am

Well said

ldssdl

2/27/23 9:06am

Revenge against an individual is wrong. These are universities and conferences.

Brandoblueblood

2/27/23 9:29am

RE: Revenge against an individual is wrong. These are universities and

HudspethEra

2/27/23 10:52pm

I see. Also a good reason.

Brandoblueblood

2/28/23 8:32am

I knew Hudspeth

davidsonlaw

2/28/23 8:19am

Amen. They tried to drown us. Let's not give them half our life jacket.

Brandoblueblood

2/27/23 8:42am

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