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10:26am

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Longseason

10:23am

Probably no original thoughts here but things I would like changed (mostly around cfp)

ral1988 Mafia Leader

10:23am

Find a way to cut out 30 minutes of commercials.

RoyalTooth15

10:24am

So BYU has played two P4 seasons. Utah has played one. How’s it going so far?

DirtyWater

10:22am

They were 1 holding call away from avoiding a 7 game losing streak. So pretty good.

slappy

10:23am

$700 per person on sports gambling

Deleted True Conservative

10:21am

I disagree with the tweet. Investing is not “waste”

TCuz

10:22am

User note: Part of the 6%

benny1982

10:25am

Almost everyone lost? Isn't it almost exactly half and half? I guess it's half

paulb

10:26am

Trip for Disney Cruise gets better and better. (Long venting)

Bruton Guster

10:19am

Already posted? Miami is 1-12 in their last 13 Bowl games.

eyes4byu

10:16am

Powerhouse program, clearly.

coug719

10:17am

It has been hard on Gloria Estefan and devastating to the rest of the Sound Mach

calvindyer

10:18am

Sound Machine

calvindyer

10:18am

Currently passing through Eugene for the first time. Thought I would stop and take a picture.

Tesla Coug Lord of the Manor

10:14am

It really is the simple things in life

canuckchuck

10:22am

As annoying as the announcers were last night, I still really like Dieon

fattycoug

10:11am

Can someone translate this for me...?

CougarLegend

10:11am

Tbh it isn’t that hard to understand what he is saying. “Ion” is slang for “I don’t” and the rest of his post has a few

RootieBoy

10:16am

I'd like to thank several of you on CB for doing your level best to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. BYU just...

Adrielle Board Misanthrope

10:09am

It really is nuts how some are calling for peoples heads after an 11-2 season.

JohnnyComeLately

10:11am

I can’t let this pass without commenting

TeeKaa

10:22am

BYU just had an 11-2 season (I know, I know, it could have been 13+-0). Yes, QB

Pantera Azul

10:09am

D (amazing!!) couldn’t stop OSU and he won that game - obviously want less TOs

RWaters

10:16am

It’s amazing we had a 11-win season without a Beck/Max/Sark/Zach-like QB

D.T. Survivor

10:17am

Its amazing Retz won as many games without a schedule like Beck/Max/Sark/Zach et

johnnybyu

10:21am

Retz' season was very much like Beck's 2004 season. So we did have that.

runnincoug

10:24am

On the broadcast they said that Jake was super beat up for the Kansas and ASU

Windward_Coug

10:08am

I didn’t know it at the time.

DirtyWater

10:09am

It was rumored. And it was nice for GB to come in and show why playing him may have been a bad idea.

shimmy

10:09am

Not well known, but he got injured in the Utah game

2FarGone

10:09am

He was clearly hesitant to run

I'mBatman

10:11am

To the coaches yes...to the fan base, no

Heinz57

10:14am

That's on the coaches. If the starter isn't good to go, the backup

SV72 Sale

10:19am

And maybe the backup doesn't lose 2 games. And the starter is back for the CFP

88Coug

10:23am

You could tell. He couldn’t/didn’t run, which he’s always used well.

Boring

10:20am

“At least we have basketball season”

DreamerCoug

10:07am

Has the B12 mentioned their 2025 rankings?

Heinz57

10:10am

BYU wins last night, Wrexham wins this morning. Great weekend.

paulb

10:06am

A couple of things we need to give Retzlaff more credit for…

DizzyDean

10:05am

I like the take but no way I take Jake over Sanders or Dart.

ordinary tri guy

10:07am

I like Sanders. My remarks weren’t directed at him.

DizzyDean

10:11am

Good runner, tough/gritty, and a good leader. I think he gets pretty good credit for that.

shimmy

10:09am

While he had more turnovers than I would have liked, I do think he

paulb

10:11am

As far as QB play he is slightly above average P4. As far as leadership,

ybecausethatswhy

10:14am

I'm hoping he'll work with Beck in the off season to improve his mechanics and accuracy.

Chemish

10:23am

A short Kalani story now that the season is over

fattycoug

10:05am

1984 doesn’t happen without 1983. That great, though imperfect season helped

SoCalCoug

10:04am

Didn’t BYU start 1984 unranked?

JohnnyComeLately

10:06am

yes. Beat 3rd ranked Pitt on the road in game 1 and were ranked in top 10 week 2

fulano

10:08am

Kinda crazy how so many things had to go right for us that year. Pitt was objectively a really bad team. But that first

JohnnyComeLately

10:16am

Difference with 84 we had two all American JC DL coming

I'mBatman

10:16am

Bosco > JR

88Coug

10:17am

It got a little over the top when the announcers started talking about how NFL

GRCoug

10:03am

My favorite was, “If you are an NFL team, how do you evaluate

DirtyWater

10:05am

PLEASE show up to the game on time on Tuesday. Marriott Center has been 30%

macdizzle

10:03am

I think people underestimate just how bad traffic is in American fork all the

Chefcurry

10:07am

The people that show up early are the ROC and those around the top third of MC.

sfeuz

10:11am

It’s worse than I’ve ever seen it. Been going to games for 25 years. The

macdizzle

10:12am

Hard truths on Jake

stev All-American

10:03am

Gutted out a couple of tough and improbable wins, and led the team to 11 wins.

SoCalCoug

10:06am

Yes. Absolutely. My point still stands.

stev

10:06am

Careful, any criticism of Jake will get you an eye roll from cougarbob137, aka

jigidajrit

10:06am

It’s wild. Some guys don’t want us to point out obvious truths.

stev

10:07am

It’s more that Jake haters refuse to acknowledge his strengths or his feats

arcawley

10:15am

Both can be true, no?

jigidajrit

10:17am

And still better injured than the backup when healthy

2FarGone

10:13am

RE: Hard truths on Jake

BYUgeezer

10:14am

I’m not comparing him to our great QBs. I’m comparing him to the other 130 FBS QBs this year.

stev

10:23am

So…he’s smack dab in the middle of the country in his 1st full year? Not bad lol

arcawley

10:14am

He is what he is. We knew coming into the year that he has obvious deficiencies

shoganai

10:14am

Riley Nelson 2.0. If he can cut down INTs we should be in contention for BIG12

JWin

10:16am

Great point.

stev

10:18am

Here's some more facts:

SoCalCoug

10:21am

Nacua asking for the score after his game.

Longseason

10:01am

Ohtani Jr?!?!?! That’s scary

HimmerFredette

9:58am

Sign him now

Longseason

9:59am

Also, she looks tall

Longseason

10:00am

Ok basketball, you have our full attention now

JackStack

9:58am

This layoff's been too dang long.

SinkingQuffa

10:00am

So long that it feels like we are starting a new season

Projectoor

10:06am

I almost said that in my post. Egor being out contributes to that feeling, prob.

SinkingQuffa

10:08am

The only win 1-9 ACC has in the bowl season is Syracuse beating

Goliath

9:57am

There should be no more “national rankings”.

Borg

9:56am

They're fun

Blueto

9:56am

What?

Borg

10:00am

Sorry 2:1 p4 to g5 ratio is not right. Name your other 3 G5 that should have gotten in over which 4 CFP this year?

Crazy Joe Davola

10:00am

It’s about fair access. Would Ohio St fear some G5 winner? Win your conf

Borg

10:01am

So...UNLV? Memphis? Army? Should they be in over Tenn or Penn State?

Crazy Joe Davola

10:04am

I don’t really know or care. Give G5 access. Win your conference or be #2 in

Borg

10:05am

Conferences aren't even close to equal. SEC...B1G..B12......ACC.....................................AAC..............MWC

Crazy Joe Davola

10:09am

This is where the problem starts. Making these not geographical conferences is

MustacheMan

10:11am

Greenrake dupe?

NGB

10:01am

Nope. Don’t want some committee favoring some ‘name’ team early season

Borg

10:04am

Is it fair for a G5 team with a one-off decent team to play NO ONE and get in? Why do they get an easy path?

Crazy Joe Davola

10:06am

I will never understand why you think a 7-5 MAC champ should get a chance over an 11-1 P4 team just because they beat

RealTaysomHill

10:04am

Then it’s a warm up game for P4. No problem. But they have access and can’t

Borg

10:06am

But we would be leaving out a team that could legitimately be the best team in the country so that a crappy team can

RealTaysomHill

10:11am

I say let every P4 have their top 3 teams, top 2 G5 over all and 2 at large.

MustacheMan

10:06am

Ok. That works too. Get rid of fictitious national rankings

Borg

10:06am

They still rank NCAA basketball teams

AxelDC

10:13am

If you have a link to Sitake’s post game comments, please post here.

Longseason

9:55am

IMO, the most accurate way to view this season is as a warning shot to the rest

shoganai

9:54am

We're going to run this conference?

Blueto

9:56am

No. We are going to compete year in and year out in this conference.

Borg

9:58am

16-team conferences will be tough for anybody to dominate over an extended

shoganai

9:59am

And we’re still just a half-share team…

BluesBrother

9:59am

Any word on tv ratings for last nights game?

Canusa

9:54am

Utah lost the most important game on their schedule. They had given up

Longseason

9:53am

Quitters quit

shimmy

9:53am

Also, they lost a bunch of other games too.

DirtyWater

9:54am

BYU store discount code?

airbug

9:52am

Retzlaff just completed the best freshman season ever by a BYU QB.

DirtyWater

9:52am

RE: Retzlaff just completed the best freshman season ever by a BYU QB.

NOCAL_YFAN

9:53am

RE: Retzlaff just completed the best freshman season ever by a BYU QB.

Blueto

9:53am

Not bad company

DirtyWater

10:03am

RE: Retzlaff just completed the best freshman season ever by a BYU QB.

RdF3

9:53am

RE: Retzlaff just completed the best freshman season ever by a BYU QB.

Hector

9:53am

RE: Retzlaff just completed the best freshman season ever by a BYU QB.

NorthernCougifornia

9:59am

Last year = redshirt. Two JUCO yrs prior no longer count towards elegibility.

d-coug

10:08am

Next year’s D line

Blue chunks

9:49am

Too soon to tell. But we have some amazing DL coaches, and they will develop whoever we have.

CrimWalCoug

9:51am

Jay Hill is here. We'll be fine.

WaffleCheese

9:52am

After adding Akana, we'll find our Ends w what we got, imo. As for our interior,

SinkingQuffa

9:55am

Keanu Tanuvasa would help A LOT. There is talent but needs to develop.

pinolero

9:58am

It will probably be a point of weakness.

shoganai

10:01am

Why is nobody mentioning Clegg on this thread? Best D end we’ve ever signed

Cougar76

10:02am

Forgot about him. He'll be in the rotation as long as he's not rusty.

pinolero

10:04am

I’m only two minutes into this video and it’s the best thing I’ve listened to … maybe ever

The 435 All-American

9:49am

“BYU came in saying ‘everybody may be coming to watch Colorado, but they going to remember us.’ We’ll remember you bro.”

The 435

9:58am

POLL: Where do we finish ranked (AP poll)?

BYUCLA

9:47am

Would love to see Pou’ha and Asiata get bigger this offseason

DavisCoCoug

9:47am

Time for Tucanos to step up with a huge NIL offer

The 435

9:51am

utes cope in funny ways

LaVellIfIKnow

9:45am

I just don't understand

NGB

9:48am

Imagine how bad we would beat down Utah. K Whitt declared them the best team they played all year… by far.

Samsonite All-American

9:45am

Didn’t we play Utah and barely win??

pink22

9:51am

We destroyed them

Ojiisan

9:57am

On a screen pass, does the receiver have to be behind the line of scrimmage when

robin

9:39am

Correct. Parker is just at the line; much further and they’d have called it.

All-American

9:40am

Not really a screen. Screen-like.

BandW

9:41am

Online didn’t start blocking downfield until after the catch.

BandW

9:43am

so is it a problem that Makasini is like 6 yards past the LOS when Parker

robin

9:44am

If Parker caught it a yard or two further, yes

NGB

9:45am

Ball has to be caught behind the line

Coop

9:42am

Yes, that probably could have been called, but that close and they shouldn't

NGB

9:43am

If you pause it when he catches it, his feet are on the line

seco03

9:43am

Fun to watch Pay destroy that d- back

BandW

9:45am

At the line of scrimmage is the same as being behind it

StantonMac

9:47am

I thought the same thing.

HimmerFredette

9:53am

At or behind the LOS. Usually you have a 1 yard buffer zone.

Adwight

9:53am

Ugh. Daughter’s flight this morning got diverted to Little Rock instead of Dallas(love field). Finally took off but her

LaserCoug All-American

9:39am

If the airline says weather then good luck getting anything out of them.

maYbe

9:42am

That’s what I’m figuring

LaserCoug

9:46am

Just a reminder during this holiday season

runningryan Pretend Athletic Director

9:38am

You can remove the “on x” from your statement

Ojiisan

9:54am

After this season, and how much we are returning, I’m starting to wonder how big

NorthernCougifornia

9:37am

Things are rarely

Goatnapper'96

9:38am

Skill positions are in great shape, I just hope D and O lines can rebuild.

Blue chunks

9:39am

Well on our way w’ Gentry, Clegg, and Alana (all 4 stars)

Cougar76

9:40am

Chance now for Etienne return with Juco rule

higgins

9:43am

Only the Alabamas of the world can be disappointed with 11-2.

maYbe

9:44am

Well... and Cougarboard

NGB

9:52am

Fans have every reason to be confident heading in to next year, but sports…

Frustrated Coug

9:55am

Less than 10 yards from an undefeated season

Greg4BYU

9:35am

So so close. The great thing is that we bring back so many players in 2025.

MoodyBlueCoug

9:36am

Close to a few more losses too though. I'll take wins vs Utah and OK St

RGGeemer

9:37am

Agreed I feel we had 3 50/50 games and won 2

higgins

9:45am

asu too

4thand19

10:06am

So how serious is a torn labrum?

MoodyBlueCoug

9:35am

Labrum? Not all tears are the same

Indy Coug

9:36am

Is labium the plural of labia?

DirtyWater

9:37am

roberts

runnincoug

9:37am

Rumored, not confirmed.

John Doe

9:38am

lol, stupid autocorrect.

MoodyBlueCoug

9:38am

Potentially very serious, but I highly doubt he's even had an MRI yet

SJS

9:37am

Looks like 4-6 months recovery time based on a google search.

brazilcoug

9:38am

I had surgery for mine

maxpowers

9:44am

Pretty sure that’s what lead to Ben Bywater hanging it up, so… not good.

Cougs or die

9:45am

Ben’s was due to brachial plexus stuff. Sophisticated nerve injury.

Mjolnir

9:54am

Surgery is generally needed- recovery is anywhere between 4 to 6 months - my son

acougfan

9:48am

I didn’t see it. How did he get hurt?

deliciousmocha

9:58am

Just noticed the title of the loyal cougars podcast episode. Oops.

Longseason

9:34am

I remember during that brief period of time in the mid 2000s that Bill Riley was the BYU radio guy for KSL,

Sandstone Cougar Your true friend

9:32am

Wait this was a thing? Bill Riley covered ByU? I have no memory of this

macdizzle

9:34am

From around 2003ish to 2004. It was an odd fit.

Sandstone Cougar

9:36am

Riley hosted a 1 hour sports themed night show on KSL radio

Blueto

9:37am

He also did BYU pregame.

Sandstone Cougar

9:37am

ESPN2
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No offense to Jake, but I think BYU was one Max Hall, John Beck, Taysom Hill, or

Coach Prime

I believe two things are true:

Just finished dinner sitting next to Travis Hunter at Hard Rock Cafe

Connor Pay with a funny post.

BYU ABSOLUTELY should have been in the playoffs

Rumor has it that BYU already gave Hill a raise to keep him from taking USU HC

nice to see on social media that everyone noticed the media glazing colorado

This is exactly why our bowl game was awful

I was floored when Dave Pasch said this on the broadcast. Talk about a lack of self awareness. (And then he went right

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