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📌 Episode 01 of the Loyal Cougars Podcast is live - Remembering the Alamo Bowl.

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11:13am

Kalani is the same age now as Whit was in 2008. Just thought that was interestin

Undefeated

2:25pm

If I read a thousand posts like this it wouldn’t get boring

Negative Equity

2:24pm

They try so hard to downplay BYU. Gotta sting so bad that whatever gap they created by going to the P12 was eviscerated

slappy

2:25pm

Article: BYU’s Egor Demin, Richie Saunders both set to return from injury for the start of Big 12 play View

[Deseret News]

2:24pm

Anyone keeping track of BYU's portal numbers? I'd be curious to see each player who entered and if they've signed with

HarlemCoug Intervention Needed

2:23pm

Still hoping Wakely gets a scholly and returns

ChinaFan

2:24pm

247 tracks this pretty well.

JuicyJam

2:25pm

With the Tanuvasa commit, I can't wait for BYU football!

TRUE_BLUE_COUGY All-American

2:23pm

The energy going into 2025 is going to be insane. 2024 we were all expecting mid

Dr MoBYU

2:24pm

How many years does Tanuvasa have to play college?

Shum8

2:22pm

2 according to Jackson Payne reporting

byuwahoo

2:23pm

Thank you

Shum8

2:24pm

Good breakdown of what BYU's defense was doing against CU

Spiff SequelTrilogyFan

2:21pm

Is that 4 missionaries in the stands headed up the stairs at the start?

Eddie

2:23pm

Yep. Mission president saw them on the broadcast

puntersarepeople

2:24pm

Robert Anae out at NC State

kodama

2:20pm

Wonder if Bronco comes calling?

cajuncoug

2:20pm

He should... Anae could do well at USU

Cougar TD

2:21pm

Has he already announced an OC?

cougarfann888

2:21pm

Yes

Charles Darwin

2:25pm

Kevin McGiven.

RootieBoy

2:25pm

Could retire as an analyst at BYU

puntersarepeople

2:23pm

He'd be such a joy to listen to

BYUFBDAD

2:25pm

TIL that in 2017 it was published that The Holy War was over. Utah won for good

ColonelMustard

2:18pm

BYU, leave Utah players alone!

Zip

2:15pm

Eichorn to portal?

Dr MoBYU

2:14pm

Good luck to him. I don't particularly remember him, do you?

Archaea

2:15pm

Got baptized during 2023 season

puntersarepeople

2:21pm

Just recall hearing his name now and then. Sad to lose depth. Don’t blame him fo

Dr MoBYU

2:22pm

RE: Eichorn to portal?

palangi

2:15pm

I thought the portal is closed. No?

ManicBlue

2:16pm

Had to inform by the 28th.

chilawcoug

2:18pm

5 days after the last game.

LaserCoug

2:18pm

That's a better answer than mine

chilawcoug

2:19pm

He has been solid but is further down in the depth chart for OL

CocaColaRecovery

2:17pm

Eichorn is Fickle, Fickle is Eichorn!

benny1982

2:20pm

Hack!

benny1982

2:20pm

Well, he was positioned on the depth chart to replace Pay at C. UNTIL

SinkingQuffa

2:23pm

I don't understand the AROD hate. Extend the man, we're lucky to have him.

BYUCougarsFan

2:14pm

Fire him! Did you see the crap fest programs on that list!?!?

Socrates Johnson

2:16pm

Eliminate pass plays inside the 10

BYU71

2:22pm

Imagine if the top 16 ranked conf champions in basketball got all the 1-4 seeds

Coog4Life

2:13pm

Basketball and football are not alike. Why? There are a ton of interconference games in

kimdaddy35

2:16pm

The NFL gives division winners home field. Is that wrong?

88Coug

2:16pm

Yes. An 8-8 team that wins a weak division is worse than a 13-3 team that doesnt

pink22

2:19pm

Shouldn't there be some reward for winning the division?

88Coug

2:23pm

So what players will BYU likely want next year from Utah's roster? Vakalahi.

Archaea

2:12pm

Spiking the ball before crossing the goal line: A Utah tradition.

Abe Froman

2:12pm

When do Bamba, Lassiter, and Eitenne have to decide if they use this JUCO extra

Cougs2012

2:10pm

I think Etienne will get his NFL assessment before he decides for sure

CougarCanuck76

2:18pm

Probably about the same time they’d decide on going pro

puntersarepeople

2:22pm

I'm looking for a new comforter for our bed and discovered this: eiderdown. Who knew?

dryflyelk All-American

2:08pm

This fully fits the definition of “splurge” for me. That’s a lot of money.

Nittany Cougar

2:13pm

yeah...I wouldn't "splurge" or anything else on a 5 digit blanket. Heck, even a 4 digit. Low 3s please.

dryflyelk

2:15pm

Is Keanu Tanuvasa related to (grand)maa Tanuvasa?

kimdaddy35 Former Fly Half

2:08pm

The Tanuvasa clan is fairly large back in Samoa. They may be related

SV72 Sale

2:19pm

Thanks, that is good information.

kimdaddy35

2:25pm

POLL: Who you got? Nixon, Jensen, Kehl. Or Kelly, Taggert, Glaskar?

Undefeated

2:08pm

Possible Esera starts at MLB

puntersarepeople

2:12pm

The latter group, mostly because of speed. The older group was terrific, for

LifeLongLakerFan

2:16pm

With the league opener tomorrow...anyone care to speculate on how BYU will fair against ASU?

Cthack1 All-American

2:07pm

Great things are happening for BYU. Let them continue.

Q-grr

2:09pm

The 5 star guard that BYU couldn't get admitted will be a handful.

Archaea

2:11pm

BYU stopping good guards....now I am a little worried....

Cthack1

2:15pm

Jason Sanon is the freshman guard, link

Archaea

2:18pm

50% 3pt and 47% from the field.....nice shooting for a guard.

Cthack1

2:23pm

Their center is a 7 footer.

Archaea

2:20pm

I think it’s going to be a tough game. I say we win by 6-10 points after pulling

provoprodigy

2:12pm

BYU went 7-2 at home in conference play last season, with a tight loss to

cwilke1

2:23pm

Sorry to say for Utah, any pre-NIL-era success you had is irrelevant now.

DirtyWater

2:05pm

That ship is sinking

44C

2:08pm

It's not just NIL. They are truly on an even playing field with BYU

Jericho

2:08pm

Would you ever rather be up in Salt Lake or would you rather be down there with

44C

2:08pm

When the Big Ten and the SEC play, it's hard to find someone to root for.

Archaea

2:03pm

I just don’t watch

Cougforgood

2:04pm

RE: I just don’t watch

kimdaddy35

2:05pm

But whose voodoo doll do you burn at the stake?

Archaea

2:09pm

Both.

Q-grr

2:12pm

It's kinda like when Russia and China go to war,

Archaea

2:13pm

No, it's easy...always root against SEC!!!

Xenon

2:15pm

POLL: BYU TV: Blaine Fowler

Borg

2:02pm

Let’s criticize those who promote and love BYU. Good way to spend our time

WallaX2

2:16pm

RE: Let’s criticize those who promote and love BYU. Good way to spend our

Borg

2:23pm

Blaine is great at what he does, has been for a long time...

cajuncoug

2:24pm

Utah has some up-and-comers that will replace Tanuvasa

CougarCanuck76

2:02pm

Dallas Vakalahi, it's time to come home!

Archaea

2:10pm

We need Redfern to start religious shaming him.

TheNerd

2:15pm

I hope the lesson learned from BYU fans is to be classy when players go

Big Tuna

1:59pm

Signed, Jeffery R. Holland

Choke

2:02pm

I looked at it when Fano was leaving and we were much, much better than the Utes.

kimdaddy35

2:02pm

BYU isn't for everyone. If someone doesn't like it there, they SHOULD leave.

DeepCCoug

2:23pm

There are always bad eggs, but those voices can be drowned out or called out. Not good that a player had to call em out

Preppy

2:02pm

Name checks out

OU Cougar

2:04pm

Yep. Look at what happened with BYU fans' treatment of Dallin Leavitt. It caused him to hate which BYU, which led to his

RdF3

2:06pm

LOL, Leavitt's hate for BYU didn't come from the fans. But nice try.

kimdaddy35

2:09pm

It did though. Sure he had a chip on his shoulder about it but BYU fans were ruthless to him on the internet. Even got

RdF3

2:12pm

That is not the root of it. You are 100% wrong.

kimdaddy35

2:13pm

Dallin burned the village on his own on his way out.

cougfanz

2:20pm

I thought the root was when he stood on the bench and flipped off the fans

ochobeeguy

2:25pm

lol, stop.

rivercitycoug

2:10pm

Seems like Dallin lit the place on fire on his way out the door.

Eddie

2:10pm

Are you sure his hate of BYU didn't precede his transferring out?

StarMan

2:11pm

Sure it existed but again byu fans were relentless in mocking him afterwards and that really put gasoline on the fire.

RdF3

2:12pm

Yep. That's what happened.

byujacob

2:12pm

Not saying there's never room for improvement, but I think BYU fans as a whole are a pretty good bunch.

byujacob

2:13pm

This….Go Cougs!!!

baishel44

2:24pm

He should have just left it at "My suggestion to Utah fans, take the L" and hit

westsidecoug

1:58pm

Except with Pouha and Poppinga we are definitely seeing

jre85

2:09pm

Po’uha and Gary Anderson are just as good as whoever Utah has a coaching DL

puntersarepeople

2:17pm

Props to Thanksgiving Point. Museum of Natural Curiosity has tons of bathrooms

HouseDeeking

1:57pm

Power college program…usually basketball or football… currently BYU is powerful

44C

1:56pm

We have a ways to go in both to be considered "power" programs, but we

LifeLongLakerFan

2:00pm

It’s safe to say that BYU is currently powerful in basketball and football.

44C

2:03pm

Perhaps, but we are not a "power college program" in either sport yet.

LifeLongLakerFan

2:12pm

ASU is the most talented of the non P2 teams in the playoff, but I think they got a bad matchup and lose by 20 points.

kimdaddy35 Former Fly Half

1:55pm

Non-p4?

Benfica1

1:57pm

Typo, my bad.

kimdaddy35

1:57pm

ASU isn't P4?

JAGA97

1:57pm

RE: ASU isn't P4?

kimdaddy35

1:59pm

they are P4?

Cougs2012

1:57pm

RE: they are P4?

kimdaddy35

2:00pm

RE: ASU is the most talented of the non P4 teams in the playoff, but I think

BenTheBoss

1:57pm

RE: ASU is the most talented of the non P4 teams in the playoff, but I think

kimdaddy35

1:58pm

ASU isn't a P4 school? Big12 champs not in the Big12 P4 conference.

Wife_Apologist

1:57pm

RE: ASU isn't a P4 school? Big12 champs not in the Big12 P4 conference.

kimdaddy35

1:59pm

Forget about Clemson? Notre Dame? If we are going off recruiting, those are

Wife_Apologist

2:01pm

Notre Dame is a P2 team in my eyes. Clemson had no business being in the playoff this year

kimdaddy35

2:03pm

Talented ≠ Better team & P2 Team == IN P2 Conference

Wife_Apologist

2:12pm

ASU Beats Texas. Book it.

Cougs2012

2:04pm

I hope you are right, I don't see it. I think Texas might win the whole thing.

kimdaddy35

2:05pm

What’s Texas’s best win? Clemson?

Cougs2012

2:07pm

Hard to say anything other than a playoff win. But I think Texas A&M would beat Clemson

kimdaddy35

2:11pm

Agree with you on Texas/ASU

DizzyDean

2:11pm

ASU wins and it is good for Big12. Texas wins and breaks the hearts of a bunch

JAGA97

2:11pm

They lose by 2 tds.

RalphWiggam

2:19pm

Gonzaga plane avoided catastrophe. FAA is investigating.

Rules For Thee But not for me

1:55pm

I've watched a lot of episodes of "Air Disasters." LAX has long been known as an

Pantera Azul

2:01pm

It happened to my flight coming back to SLC from Japan via Seattle (or Portland) about 12 years ago.

Rules For Thee

2:12pm

Looks closer than it was, but can't see the hold short line on the taxi way

HouseDeeking

2:05pm

Horrific call against Missouri

Goliath

1:52pm

Glad they overturned it. Would have been such crap

VirginiaPeanut

1:52pm

This one against Iowa too…

NarfUte

2:03pm

My dream scenario…Prime goes to the Cowboys and CU goes after, and gets,

AlternateShot

1:51pm

Yewts would put a bag on the table for Hill. Might be hard to keep him

kotacoug

1:53pm

I don't think we want lds coaches in our conference recruiting lds players

cougarfann888

1:53pm

I'll allow it for something like this 🙂

BYU Fan

1:57pm

B12 needs Deion. Dude is $$. And love his philosophy. Hard work or go home.

Dr MoBYU

1:55pm

LOL, Colorado wouldn't even consider Scalley.

Tare

1:58pm

ARod should've drawn up a couple of plays for Jakob Robinson at WR for the bowl.

BlueKarma

1:51pm

What comes to mind seeing UU fans bashing current & transferring players...

cougarmeister

1:51pm

Snowden - I just don't see the advantages of the Ute program any more

HurrahforIsrael

1:50pm

RE: Snowden - I just don't see the advantages of the Ute program any more

icecougar

1:52pm

He grew up a u fan. As a long time Coug who graduated from U, I get it. I was

fulano

1:59pm

Isn't a legacy type recruit? How did he grow up a Ute fan?

Archaea

2:00pm

Wow. He was a Utah fan? How did his dad fail that one?

Belboz

2:01pm

Where has this been said or known? Other than right now

chitownboy

2:05pm

A friend of mine is a close friend of Smith’s father. Smith has a very sweet deal at the U. It does

specsauce

2:20pm

POLL: Would you welcome the BCS computers back now that we have a (mostly) proper playoff?

BlueVU

1:49pm

Turns out the two are very similar every year, so it doesn’t make much of a

Nikomedes

1:52pm

Somewhat colinear because the AP poll tends to fall in line with CFP quickly.

molodyets

1:57pm

The computers just allow the committee to hide their bias in the algorithms. I

BlueKarma

1:55pm

and this goes to my primary issue. Why can't computers schedule? the same algorithm and derivatives they use to build

ChinaFan

2:07pm

there needs to be a better algorithm, the polls are biased so the poll would be biased, IMHO, if you want to go

ChinaFan

2:04pm

I can’t imagine being Morgan Scalley right now. The heir apparent watching the

blackandblue

1:49pm

Seems easier to follow the legend if he’s not very legend on his way out

BaseCoug

1:51pm

I mean they are not in a good place, but they also have a decent team coming back if they can find

kimdaddy35

1:51pm

That on top of the fact that Whitt 100% sabotaged his chance to get the

CycloneCoug

1:54pm

Scalley might've wanted it that way.

Eddie

2:07pm

Maybe

CycloneCoug

2:21pm

Scalley is just going to strengthen his argument for more power and money when

1984coug

2:05pm

I hope Whittingham, Randall and Harlan all stick around for long time

44C

2:06pm

“Entire program implode” … that’s a bit dramatic.

JoeExotic

2:14pm

Just found out about Tanuvasa. Great pickup. Much needed considering how short

Schrodizzy

1:48pm

I cannot root for the donkey utes. We do compete for recruits to a degree. Plus

Dr MoBYU

1:44pm

They are going to be out of it by halftime.

bluecougar1985

1:50pm

I always go for group of 5 teams in bowls like this

CaliforniaCougar22

1:52pm

It is without question in BYU’s best interest for BSU to get blown out and for

Westwood

2:03pm

More Ute on Ute violence

CougarCanuck76

1:44pm

RE: More Ute on Ute violence

sethj250

1:46pm

RE: More Ute on Ute violence

JackStack

1:49pm

RE: More Ute on Ute violence

TheHop

1:49pm

Whatever happens, I hope Smith Snowden doesn't come to BYU. Stay strong!

crazY

1:50pm

RE: More Ute on Ute violence

BlueFever

1:52pm

The best possible thing for yewt players to experience in their lives is

Mitty

1:56pm

Man Ute fans are professional bridge burners

Cougz19

1:43pm

RE: Man Ute fans are professional bridge burners

Still Open

1:46pm

Yikes. Deleted now, but that’s a horrible tweet.

SpecialT

1:55pm

He is like a 16-year-old kid

BYUCougarsFan

1:58pm

Who is that?

The 435

2:02pm

He deleted his apology tweet now 🤣

BYUCougarsFan

2:04pm

I saw it before it was deleted but don’t know who it is. Whose brother?

The 435

2:12pm

Cool article from the Athletic on Keanu and his family from years ago

CSoul Hardcore Democrat

1:41pm

247 proves it’s a joke again - Tanuvasa transfer grade

mjmill All-American

1:40pm

I’m not sure why people care. Stars don’t make anyone better or worse

JoeExotic

1:41pm

“Team talent” ratings matter

mjmill

1:41pm

How so?

cambo

1:43pm

Most computer rankings include some component of recruiting rank

Kajdin

1:43pm

Unfortunately they do. Recruiting rankings play a part in the real rankings

Kajdin

1:43pm

“Real rankings” are only the committee rankings. To the extent it plays a part in ESPN FPI and SOR, we don’t know

TCuz

1:50pm

They make our starting ranking worse though, perception matters in rankings

hardcorecoug

1:43pm

There are several ranking systems that take recruit rankings into consideration

BYUMizzou

1:43pm

ESPN's FPI does indeed include recruiting rankings as a variable in their model

Greg Kite's 'stache

1:51pm

Is there an updated website? That explicitly says it doesn’t even use 247 data, but it’s also 8 years old

TCuz

1:56pm

On ESPN website's FPI page, scroll down to the bottom and there's a link to "What is ESPN's Football Power Index"

Greg Kite's 'stache

2:16pm

Whether FPI uses 247 specifically, or another rating tool, the concept is still the same-recruiting ratings matter...

Greg Kite's 'stache

2:23pm

I’d take a whole lot of 3 stars if they play like that dude!

fulano

1:44pm

It is a moronic ranking and clear proof they either don't watch or they don't have any

kimdaddy35

1:53pm

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