If I remember my history correctly, It started off with paying

Mar 18, 2025
10:54:09am

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athletes or hiring ringers. And now we are returning to that. I can see a point where its no longer student athletes, but pro athletes who can't play, or aren't ready to play in the big leagues.

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BYU and NIL

JohnHaddow

Mar 18, 9:15am

Very insightful John. Thanks for your thoughts.

RdF3

Mar 18, 9:20am

I think that is mostly correct but I think one part is wrong.

cougarfann888

Mar 18, 9:20am

You're right, 888. It is a CAP, not a FLOOR. $20.5 MM maximum in 2025-2026.

Six Foot Seven

Mar 18, 9:23am

Correct. That's why you have some schools "declaring" that they'll meet the 20.5 mil max

Conan

Mar 18, 9:34am

Thanks for the corrections on the cap

JohnHaddow

Mar 18, 9:34am

Good insights John. Thanks.

LiveY'r

Mar 18, 10:14am

It's simultaneously a floor and a cap depending on how you look at it...

BamaCoug

Mar 18, 12:25pm

The changes are definitely a positive change. There’s so much money in college football and men’s basketball

TCuz

Mar 18, 9:23am

There should be a NIL threshold where athletic scholarships go away.

Les IsMore

Mar 18, 9:44am

Don’t be fooled. The blue bloods will go right back to circumventing the “rules”

WillsPitStop

Mar 18, 11:18am

This change seems 100% pushed by blue bloods. This allows them to get back into

SnickSnack

Mar 18, 9:28am

Where do I apply for one of those "unbiased" third party monitor jobs?

Les IsMore

Mar 18, 9:50am

This seems closer to a unrestricted free market. Less corruption.

ParentingNotForSissy

Mar 18, 6:09pm

Rev share cap for this year is $20.5M. 70% to FB players; 20% to MBB players; 5% to Women's BB; 5% to all other sports.

roseyscenario

Mar 18, 9:29am

yeah 5% for WBB is about $1million for 15 players, so $66K each. WNBA earns

runnincoug

Mar 18, 9:45am

Why more for WBB than soccer or volleyball? Men’s makes sense as

cougsareforreal

Mar 18, 10:32am

yeah women's soccer seems to be more popular

runnincoug

Mar 18, 10:35am

I don't think this is true. Maybe at BYU, but not in general

krindorr

Mar 18, 2:02pm

are these suggested proportions? or is there a requirement to meet those

cwilke1

Mar 18, 10:08am

it was reported that Dybantsa is in range of $5 million alone, so how will BYU

cwilke1

Mar 18, 10:10am

That number reported for Dybantsa is not the rev sharing number it's NIL.

Schultz is back

Mar 18, 10:15am

yes the new settlement is going to try to impose some type of review agency that

cwilke1

Mar 18, 10:23am

RE: yes the new settlement is going to try to impose some type of review agency

Schultz is back

Mar 18, 10:33am

wow, interesting but confusing

cwilke1

Mar 18, 11:09am

At BYU Women's soccer and volleyball should get the larger payouts instead of

Schultz is back

Mar 18, 10:17am

Is that 70/20/5/5 split decided/dictated by BYU, Big 12, NCAA, settlement negotiations? Who?

IdahoCoug

Mar 18, 11:08am

If employees, do they get health insurance, participate in 401k, etc? This could

GilbertAZCougar

Mar 18, 11:35am

Revenue share should be based on revenue contribution. At Utah that would mean the women’s gymnastics would get more….

BYU Grounds

Mar 18, 4:24pm

Thanks for sharing.

IdahoCoug

Mar 18, 9:32am

Don't assume NIL is replacing the envelopes of cash. Consider those envelopes...

Les IsMore

Mar 18, 9:57am

I assume this is true. However,

IdahoCoug

Mar 18, 10:08am

One missing piece in a lot of these discussions is that players can opt out of

califcougar

Mar 18, 9:37am

Good point.

IdahoCoug

Mar 18, 9:38am

Yes, this is an important point for high-level players.

LifeLongLakerFan

Mar 18, 9:39am

I wonder if people are not going to like these opt outs and push for a

UNLVcougar

Mar 18, 10:09am

Collective bargaining is dead on arrival, many states ban public employees from

califcougar

Mar 18, 2:30pm

Good luck with that fair market part

Charles Darwin

Mar 18, 9:39am

My big question is how does this affect the NIL collectives? If outside NIL

BYUMizzou

Mar 18, 9:50am

They don't have to be verified if the student opts out of the House settlement.

Six Foot Seven

Mar 18, 9:51am

Is the $22M set by BYU or is that something the NCAA stipulated as part of the

UNLVcougar

Mar 18, 10:03am

It’s part of the NCAA-House settlement and is standard across all schools. BYU will be paying the maximum.

TCuz

Mar 18, 10:04am

They are requiring schools to pay NIL money to athletes on programs that

East_is_up

Mar 18, 10:10am

The NCAA was sued and lost. It is what it is. This is part of the settlement between

IdahoCoug

Mar 18, 10:32am

I’m simply stating my opinion on the topic. Like most do on here. I’m not

East_is_up

Mar 18, 10:55am

Sorry. I misunderstood your complaint, but don't confuse

IdahoCoug

Mar 18, 11:06am

If I remember my history correctly, It started off with paying

bald man

Mar 18, 10:54am

LOL... "fair value for their payment"

Hill4Heisman

Mar 18, 11:19am

What is the value of Caitlin Clark

JohnHaddow

Mar 18, 11:38am

Yep. Pretty difficult to argue when a arm's length transaction is made.

Acorn

Mar 18, 12:36pm

Would watching you work make me want to buy Nikes or a Red Bull?

Cru Jones

Mar 18, 1:57pm

No need to compare AJ to you. You are both, likely, in very different markets and valued differently from an employer

TheLoneCougar

Mar 18, 1:59pm

Hopefully BYUtv is paying the AD for the rich content that it receives

Rocketman

Mar 18, 4:12pm

Glad to see you! Haven't seen you in forever

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