I treated a soccer player with a high grade Lisfranc injury this year

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Nov 14, 2024
10:05:37pm

Medute All-American

I treated a soccer player with a high grade Lisfranc injury this year

It was read as a complete on the MRI. She played on it for two games before finally saying it hurt too much. Ultrasound ultimately showed some intact dorsal fibers so it did have some integrity. But I’ve seen people play with ACL tears and Lisfranc tears. They aren’t all the same.

What’s your profession? I’m a sports medicine doctor who treats 100% musculoskeletal injuries. I’ve covered sidelines for high school, collegiate and professional sports for 18 years.

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Time

Lisfranc surgery for Rose

Indy Coug Loquacious Lummox

Nov 14, 9:00am

Well that helps explain some things

Akilleez

Nov 14, 9:00am

Why not just put Wilson in?

2FarGone

Nov 14, 9:01am

Amazed Wilson didn't enter the portal on Monday.

Hawk in the 303

Nov 14, 9:05am

why? now he has three games to try and prove himself... if he thinks they'll go back to Rose, he can bail after the

ChinaFan

Nov 14, 12:14pm

Apparently their 3rd/4th string QB with a busted foot was a better option

BYU Fan

Nov 14, 9:11am

He had a few good throws so they thought he was better

Bobmarleyjr

Nov 14, 10:37am

Because he's not healthy either. Is my guess.

byubyu

Nov 14, 9:19am

That's trying to put lipstick on a pig. You'll see Saturday. He is fine.

2FarGone

Nov 14, 9:22am

Exactly. If they were so close to even, rose can’t be better injured.

Boring

Nov 14, 9:23am

That situation alone should push Isaac to enter transfer portal.

CT98

Nov 14, 11:32am

Very responsible of KWhitt to drug him up and keep marching him out there.

Nov 14, 9:01am

Seriously wonder how he continues to do this kind of stuff.

O Gaucho

Nov 14, 9:05am

To be fair, we did the same thing with Taysom. He tried to tough it out that

allaboutthegainz

Nov 14, 9:08am

And to be further fair, we got rid of all those coaches the next year

rcbyufan

Nov 14, 9:14am

Did they replace the ortho covering the game that injected him and sent him back

cowbellcoug

Nov 14, 10:39am

This! And then Taysom had to have his midfoot joints fused the following week.

cowbellcoug

Nov 14, 10:39am

Is it possible to cause further damage?

whoneedscorners?

Nov 14, 10:45am

It absolutely would predictably cause further damage. That's why he had to have

cowbellcoug

Nov 14, 10:56am

Very much depends on the extent of the initial injury

StantonMac

Nov 14, 11:33am

However you classify the initial Lis Frac injury, play a violent sport on it for

cowbellcoug

Nov 14, 12:24pm

It’s possible to cause more damage. Just depends on the severity of the injury &

LakeshowCougs

Nov 14, 11:07am

It's what we did with Taysom. He was injured early 2nd quarter, finished the qtr

Ghost of Peanut

Nov 14, 9:55am

How on the Lord's green earth does this program keep getting QBs?!

Iki_Balam

Nov 14, 2:06pm

I assumed it was in the 2nd Q. He was limping pretty bad in 2nd Q

JoeExotic

Nov 14, 9:01am

Holy cow. No wonder he stunk so bad in the 2nd half. Why didn't

FrankenCoug

Nov 14, 9:02am

Whittingham to offensive skill position players:

d-coug

Nov 14, 9:02am

RE: Whittingham to offensive skill position players:

EEcougar

Nov 14, 9:09am

RE: Whittingham to offensive skill position players:

Powerbait DPM

Nov 14, 10:31am

I am now almost positive their RB played with a concussion, what a cesspool

Big12Yfan

Nov 14, 9:03am

He definitely looked concussed

Iman23

Nov 14, 9:05am

It definitely makes you wonder - I thought for sure Bernard was done

BYU Fan

Nov 14, 9:09am

He walked to the wrong sideline once after a play. Took about 5 or 6 steps that

byubyu

Nov 14, 9:21am

Yup, he slammed the side of his head to the turf. Helmets are designed to absorb

ChiCityCoug

Nov 14, 9:42am

100%

Nov 14, 10:09am

Shoot em up and push him back out on the field. Not a great look for Whitt or the Utah program.

WDaddy

Nov 14, 9:03am

Meh. Taysom played through his too. Rose is a competitor. #respect

Lalau

Nov 14, 9:06am

Taysom didn't try to play the second half against Nebraska with a Lisfranc. It's

osbooks

Nov 14, 9:09am

He tried to play again in the second quarter after the injury.

Marvelous

Nov 14, 9:40am

The doctor at the game told Taysom that playing wouldn't make it any worse, so

bluescholar

Nov 14, 10:14am

We did the same thing with both Taysom and Riley Nelson...

cougarBee

Nov 14, 9:13am

Taysom didn't play the 2nd half against Nebraska with that injury. We didn't do the same thing.

spugeddy24

Nov 14, 9:16am

I'm pretty sure he played into the 3rd and possibly even briefly in the 4th.

byubyu

Nov 14, 9:44am

Mangum came in with 12 minutes left in the 4th.

molodyets

Nov 14, 9:58am

Wrong. Hill played almost a whole quarter before Mangum came in.

Nov 14, 10:07am

There’s a reason they have medical staff on the sidelines. Keep kids from making dumb decisions with long term

WDaddy

Nov 14, 9:27am

False narrative. Taysom or medical staff didn't even try to play 2nd half

osbooks

Nov 14, 9:30am

Yes he did. Magnum didn't replace him until the 4th.

byubyu

Nov 14, 9:44am

Yup, it wan't until BYU got the ball with about 12 minutes left in the 4th

Ungoy

Nov 14, 9:58am

Yep. Taysom played the first four series of the 2nd half.

byuTX

Nov 14, 10:00am

I stand corrected. I just went back and watched snap to tackle for the game and

osbooks

Nov 14, 10:11am

FWIW I didn't remember him playing in the 3rd either. I think he tore it doing that dumb stomping motion as he scored

byuTX

Nov 14, 10:29am

Taysom tore it as he planted to escape the pocket on that run

StantonMac

Nov 14, 10:57am

Hopefully

byuTX

Nov 14, 11:33am

That’s twice they have kept a player in with a season ending injury instead of

cougaman

Nov 14, 9:06am

Whitt's confidence level in Wilson displayed in stock prices:

Ungoy

Nov 14, 10:06am

I think it happened when he was over celebrating his TD.

kotacoug

Nov 14, 9:06am

My thought too on hearing of his injury. It would be interesting to see if the

ledfoot

Nov 14, 10:04am

If I was a ute fan I'd be pissed about this. Whitt kept him in through an entire

delux_247

Nov 14, 9:06am

Players sometimes insist on playing.

RoboKayne

Nov 14, 12:23pm

And that is why there is a grown adult man with more perspective on the sidelines that's supposed to tell him that he

Black Diamond Bay

Nov 14, 12:42pm

Children sometimes demand candy.

Brandoblueblood

Nov 14, 4:24pm

I have every confidence Kalani would never do that.

YSMACK

Nov 14, 9:08am

KWhitt

acougfan

Nov 14, 9:16am

Here's the rest of the cut off part: "...forced to play in such a condition, but that's Kyle for you"

byuTX

Nov 14, 9:18am

Great, another excuse for that fanbase.

coug10278

Nov 14, 9:22am

This is either hilarious ute lore or extreme malpractice, one or the other.

Brandoblueblood

Nov 14, 9:22am

Cuz he's Kryalz personal "Un Doctor". He should be sued for malpractice.

ledfoot

Nov 14, 10:07am

Rewatching the game it really stands out

buckeyecougarguy

Nov 14, 9:31am

I would have been like him I think. That’s a hugely exciting moment.

Dr MoBYU

Nov 14, 9:41am

Yeah if you celebrate a touchdown you deserve your season ending injury. What a fun take!

Nov 14, 10:12am

I didn’t want him to get a season ending injury. I wanted him to lose. I also

buckeyecougarguy

Nov 14, 11:10am

lol his attitude was the main reason why the first half went as well as it did. Strong disagree there.

Nov 14, 11:19am

Exactly. I wish I had seen more of that from our team.

Christopsomo

Nov 14, 12:29pm

I think his play definitely ignited the team. But a little more emotional

buckeyecougarguy

Nov 14, 2:21pm

He got hurt at the end of the first half. Otherwise lol at the rest of your post.

Nov 14, 3:42pm

You really don’t think your team and coach and AD got overly emotional?

buckeyecougarguy

Nov 14, 4:15pm

We are talking about Rose here.

Nov 14, 4:20pm

Kid gets his break after years of work. Makes some big plays. Let him get fired up. This is football.

Longhaul

Nov 14, 11:57am

From my view it was weird. Just my opinion. I’m all for being fired up and

buckeyecougarguy

Nov 14, 2:40pm

Also, he literally hadn't been there before. Wasn't this his first career start?

RoboKayne

Nov 14, 12:21pm

1st start and 1st real playing time for the team.

dut99002

Nov 14, 12:23pm

RE: Rewatching the game it really stands out

OPINIONS

Nov 14, 10:19am

No sympathy, just a hope that it humbles him!? Lame!

GoodBetterBestBYU

Nov 14, 11:33am

You must have missed it.

buckeyecougarguy

Nov 14, 4:14pm

Didn’t let it bother me. Feel bad for the kid. Our guys get chippy sometimes too.

GoodBetterBestBYU

Nov 14, 5:33pm

RE: Rewatching the game it really stands out

Nov 14, 4:06pm

I noticed him limping near the end of the half.

kansascougar

Nov 14, 9:42am

Tells you how much they like Wilson...yikes. Kid has to want to transfer now

vabeachcoug

Nov 14, 10:08am

Wow, that's nuts. What does that say about what Whit thinks about Wilson?

SausageKing

Nov 14, 10:08am

Honestly, if the Doctor says playing won't make the injury worse, and player can stand the pain, let him play.

JayOwen

Nov 14, 10:14am

This is how you start a pain killer pill addition.

Iki_Balam

Nov 14, 2:08pm

And really,what is the sum of these types of actions?

RoaroftheCougartails

Nov 14, 3:37pm

Wish him the best.

OldFogey

Nov 14, 10:29am

he seemed to have been crying at the post-game press conference. Understandable

oilman

Nov 14, 10:30am

I applaud the kid for toughing it out to the best of his abilities. What is odd

Bluedarts

Nov 14, 10:34am

Lost in all this is the fact that players typically WANT to play through injury

reddead

Nov 14, 10:50am

It’d be cool if Taysom reached out to him to encourage him. The rivalry needs

Q-grr

Nov 14, 11:02am

I call victimy, legend-making-wannabe BS on this story.

Brandoblueblood

Nov 14, 11:11am

He was clearly limping during the game. So he’s going to have surgery and miss

cougaman

Nov 14, 11:14am

Then why would Whittingham play him when he has a healthy QB2?

Brandoblueblood

Nov 14, 12:18pm

He did the same with Rising. I don’t know why he played him over Wilson. The

cougaman

Nov 14, 12:21pm

Many reports that lil' Wilson has been injured for weeks.

NYC and Japan

Nov 14, 12:25pm

Many BYU fans in the comments pulling for him. Love this.

SaturdaySpecialDay

Nov 14, 11:15am

This is how we should be! Kid was such a competitor and almost turned their season around. Glad he didn’t. Sad for him.

GoodBetterBestBYU

Nov 14, 11:35am

Takes some toughness, hope he wasn't pushed to do it by Utah

Projectoor

Nov 14, 11:32am

Why would any QB consider ever playing for Whittingham?

Pangare

Nov 14, 12:43pm

There are so many misinformed posts in this thread

Medute

Nov 14, 4:14pm

I think you mean it's their call to "clear" them to go back in, but...

Brandoblueblood

Nov 14, 4:30pm

I mean, I watched the game. He was clearly able to walk and jog with a limp

Medute

Nov 14, 4:59pm

Good write-up. Also, Taysom Hill continued to play in the Nebraska game...

oilman

Nov 14, 4:40pm

Precisely

Medute

Nov 14, 5:00pm

He played for one or two more series in the first half and could do nothing on

imdocrob

Nov 14, 9:10pm

Not sure if you are talking about Rose or Taysom

Medute

Nov 14, 10:00pm

I call BS...no chance with pain killers and a steel plate in shoe that he could

imdocrob

Nov 14, 9:07pm

I treated a soccer player with a high grade Lisfranc injury this year

Medute

Nov 14, 10:05pm

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