Overall the coaches are responsible for the product on the field

Oct 24, 2024
1:06:31pm

CameronG Starter

If the players overlooked OSU it's partly because the coaches didn't adequately motivate or prepare them and part on the players for buying the hype.

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CameronG

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Locked on UCF guy Mike G is saying that BYU is in trouble this week and that BYU is cocky and can't stop the run.

Brisket Starter

11:58am

Is he wrong?

Dark Forest Green

11:59am

Yes. BYU has not been cocky at all. Humble and hungry.

kccougar

12:02pm

I wouldn't say we are cocky. At the same time I would say we overlooked Oklahoma State and it was embarrassing.

Brisket

12:03pm

Nah….they have a great coach and coming off a bye week they had a great

kansascougar

12:07pm

So we didn't play assignment sound and we had 3 terrible turnovers in the first half (including possibly the dumbest

Brisket

12:19pm

2 terrible turnovers. The 3rd was a meaningless Hail Mary type play.

RGGeemer

12:23pm

I think you're kind of missing the point. All across the board, offense and defense, we made mistakes that have been

Brisket

12:43pm

Mistakes doesn't mean we were overlooking Ok St. I just can't buy that argument

RGGeemer

12:48pm

From my experience there is a direct correlation between mistakes and overconfidence.

Brisket

12:56pm

From my experience, mistakes come when you are playing tight and forcing things.

RGGeemer

12:57pm

Sure, just discount Utah's advantages in money, quality of recruits, and greater depth and we can blame playing tight.

Brisket

1:12pm

They had none of those in 2011. The worst one of all. Not to mention 2008,

RGGeemer

1:19pm

From 2000 to 2010 BYU went 5-5 vs Utah. So what you're saying is when their situations were most similar their records

Brisket

3:44pm

I wouldn't say that Hail Mary INT was meaningless especially since he was

CameronG

12:53pm

Eh, low risk high reward type throw. I'm ok with it.

RGGeemer

12:56pm

The way the throw turned out, it turned into high risk

CameronG

1:03pm

It didn't though. Retzlaff tackled him well before the end zone.

RGGeemer

1:08pm

When the guy picked it, he had blockers and only Retzlaff and the BYU OL to beat

CameronG

1:12pm

Well I guess you and everyone near you were pretty wrong haha.

RGGeemer

1:20pm

He started running to the sideline, but LJ and Keim were there forcing him back

RGGeemer

1:22pm

I give Gundy a lot of credit. His game plan was perfect. For example, right at the start of the 4th quarter and

cheezedawg

12:45pm

Yeah, kinda seems like he out coached our coaches.

Brisket

12:50pm

…I thought you were arguing the players overlooked OSU. Now we were out coached?

kalifi

12:52pm

Oh brother, did I specifically at any time say it was just players? Nope. I include coaches and players in the equation.

Brisket

1:03pm

Overall the coaches are responsible for the product on the field

CameronG

1:06pm

The way I was taught was that failures are a result of leadership on some level.

Brisket

1:15pm

Yep, sometimes that happens. Our coaches called the right plays and the

kansascougar

3:00pm

0% chance we overlooked OK St. Our D definitely got outplayed by their O, but

RGGeemer

12:12pm

OSU completely changed their offense in the two weeks they had before coming to

Six Foot Seven

12:15pm

They don't have to be clairvoyant to know that the new QB was more of a runner

CameronG

1:09pm

Gundy is 8-1 in the last 9 games coming off a bye week

whoneedscorners?

12:20pm

I don't think that's true at all. Oklahoma State made excellent use of their bye week and came ready to compete.

kccougar

12:24pm

And modified their offense substantially

Archaea

12:54pm

You act as though BYU's coaches couldn't have possibly guessed that by switching

CameronG

1:13pm

Their sets were different too

Archaea

2:41pm

Embarrassing? You need to watch this game again from a different

ITSYABOI

2:24pm

Not at all. Jay Hill was flat outcoached by Mike Gundy, in part due to the

ninja math

3:16pm

Run defense has been fine in games other than OSU.

JuicyJam

12:05pm

Every interview I've seen, the players say UCF is one of the hardest teams.

ochobeeguy

12:08pm

He's going to be surprised when our D focuses on shutting down the run.

TheRefsStink

12:22pm

While BYU had better be prepared, that guy came off a bit smug

thewaterboy

11:59am

Classic UCF fan

RGGeemer

12:02pm

Like the Yewts, they maintain a questionable claim to a National Championship

BluesBrother

12:09pm

OK State was the wakeup call we needed without the L. We'll be ready.

SLIVER

11:59am

Fingers crossed

RGGeemer

12:01pm

I hope so.

Brisket

12:04pm

If I only saw the Ok St game, I would also think we can't stop the run at all.

rcbyufan

12:00pm

I watched this guy's episode yesterday...he hasn't watched any of BYU games

MaximusMeridius

12:22pm

2 days ago on his podcast he didn't even know where the game was being played.

cosmohio

1:34pm

Yeah his analysis was " BYU is a team whose offense is much better than their

MaximusMeridius

1:54pm

I listened to him on Locked on Cougars this morning. I didn't hear him say that

Bobby Lee Swagger

1:31pm

Okay, now watch the one I linked where he is on with Drake Toll from Locked on Big 12 where he does say it.

Brisket

3:46pm

Okay to be a bit cocky. Not okay to be unprepared.

GMGlenn

1:42pm

Confident is not the same as cocky

Happy As Larry

2:38pm

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