Oh brother, did I specifically at any time say it was just players? Nope. I include coaches and players in the equation.

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Oct 24, 2024
1:03:32pm

Brisket Starter

Oh brother, did I specifically at any time say it was just players? Nope. I include coaches and players in the equation.

When the guys that I was involved in training in the military made mistakes in the field I always had to evaluate if any part of that was on me and the training I was giving. Very often there was some part of it that fell on me in one way or the other and we had to adjust teaching methods, curriculum, or both. It falls on everyone.

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Brisket

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Locked on UCF guy Mike G is saying that BYU is in trouble this week and that BYU is cocky and can't stop the run.

Brisket Starter

11:58am

Is he wrong?

Dark Forest Green

11:59am

Yes. BYU has not been cocky at all. Humble and hungry.

kccougar

12:02pm

I wouldn't say we are cocky. At the same time I would say we overlooked Oklahoma State and it was embarrassing.

Brisket

12:03pm

Nah….they have a great coach and coming off a bye week they had a great

kansascougar

12:07pm

So we didn't play assignment sound and we had 3 terrible turnovers in the first half (including possibly the dumbest

Brisket

12:19pm

2 terrible turnovers. The 3rd was a meaningless Hail Mary type play.

RGGeemer

12:23pm

I think you're kind of missing the point. All across the board, offense and defense, we made mistakes that have been

Brisket

12:43pm

Mistakes doesn't mean we were overlooking Ok St. I just can't buy that argument

RGGeemer

12:48pm

From my experience there is a direct correlation between mistakes and overconfidence.

Brisket

12:56pm

From my experience, mistakes come when you are playing tight and forcing things.

RGGeemer

12:57pm

Sure, just discount Utah's advantages in money, quality of recruits, and greater depth and we can blame playing tight.

Brisket

1:12pm

They had none of those in 2011. The worst one of all. Not to mention 2008,

RGGeemer

1:19pm

From 2000 to 2010 BYU went 5-5 vs Utah. So what you're saying is when their situations were most similar their records

Brisket

3:44pm

I wouldn't say that Hail Mary INT was meaningless especially since he was

CameronG

12:53pm

Eh, low risk high reward type throw. I'm ok with it.

RGGeemer

12:56pm

The way the throw turned out, it turned into high risk

CameronG

1:03pm

It didn't though. Retzlaff tackled him well before the end zone.

RGGeemer

1:08pm

When the guy picked it, he had blockers and only Retzlaff and the BYU OL to beat

CameronG

1:12pm

Well I guess you and everyone near you were pretty wrong haha.

RGGeemer

1:20pm

He started running to the sideline, but LJ and Keim were there forcing him back

RGGeemer

1:22pm

I give Gundy a lot of credit. His game plan was perfect. For example, right at the start of the 4th quarter and

cheezedawg

12:45pm

Yeah, kinda seems like he out coached our coaches.

Brisket

12:50pm

…I thought you were arguing the players overlooked OSU. Now we were out coached?

kalifi

12:52pm

Oh brother, did I specifically at any time say it was just players? Nope. I include coaches and players in the equation.

Brisket

1:03pm

Overall the coaches are responsible for the product on the field

CameronG

1:06pm

The way I was taught was that failures are a result of leadership on some level.

Brisket

1:15pm

Yep, sometimes that happens. Our coaches called the right plays and the

kansascougar

3:00pm

0% chance we overlooked OK St. Our D definitely got outplayed by their O, but

RGGeemer

12:12pm

OSU completely changed their offense in the two weeks they had before coming to

12:15pm

They don't have to be clairvoyant to know that the new QB was more of a runner

CameronG

1:09pm

Gundy is 8-1 in the last 9 games coming off a bye week

whoneedscorners?

12:20pm

I don't think that's true at all. Oklahoma State made excellent use of their bye week and came ready to compete.

kccougar

12:24pm

And modified their offense substantially

Archaea

12:54pm

You act as though BYU's coaches couldn't have possibly guessed that by switching

CameronG

1:13pm

Their sets were different too

Archaea

2:41pm

Embarrassing? You need to watch this game again from a different

ITSYABOI

2:24pm

Not at all. Jay Hill was flat outcoached by Mike Gundy, in part due to the

ninja math

3:16pm

Run defense has been fine in games other than OSU.

JuicyJam

12:05pm

Every interview I've seen, the players say UCF is one of the hardest teams.

ochobeeguy

12:08pm

He's going to be surprised when our D focuses on shutting down the run.

12:22pm

While BYU had better be prepared, that guy came off a bit smug

thewaterboy

11:59am

Classic UCF fan

RGGeemer

12:02pm

Like the Yewts, they maintain a questionable claim to a National Championship

12:09pm

OK State was the wakeup call we needed without the L. We'll be ready.

SLIVER

11:59am

Fingers crossed

RGGeemer

12:01pm

I hope so.

Brisket

12:04pm

If I only saw the Ok St game, I would also think we can't stop the run at all.

rcbyufan

12:00pm

I watched this guy's episode yesterday...he hasn't watched any of BYU games

MaximusMeridius

12:22pm

2 days ago on his podcast he didn't even know where the game was being played.

cosmohio

1:34pm

Yeah his analysis was " BYU is a team whose offense is much better than their

MaximusMeridius

1:54pm

I listened to him on Locked on Cougars this morning. I didn't hear him say that

Bobby Lee Swagger

1:31pm

Okay, now watch the one I linked where he is on with Drake Toll from Locked on Big 12 where he does say it.

Brisket

3:46pm

Okay to be a bit cocky. Not okay to be unprepared.

GMGlenn

1:42pm

Confident is not the same as cocky

2:38pm

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