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Oct 17, 2024
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Spiff
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Of the 12 4th Down stops, 3 were in the 1st quarter, 1 in the 2nd, 4 in the 3rd, & 4 in the 4th.
7 were on our side of the field. 4 were inside the 25.
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Jay Hill isn't messing around.
Abe Froman
10/17/24 2:08pm
Sheesh, even more than punts?
SV72 Sale
10/17/24 2:11pm
Every time there's been talk about this not being sustainable and every week
BackPacker
10/17/24 2:13pm
No, but I think it will be more about how teams game plan against us
whoneedscorners?
10/17/24 2:16pm
Why “No?” The available evidence suggests otherwise.
xgbs
10/17/24 5:19pm
Did you even read what I wrote at all?
whoneedscorners?
10/17/24 7:23pm
Has there ever been a team in history at any level that had the opponent turn
boctabulous
10/17/24 7:43pm
As if anyone could ever know that Napolian
NC CougarBear
10/17/24 7:56pm
Do you have an opinion/guess though? I dont think its ever happened. If it has
boctabulous
10/18/24 9:20am
Especially considering that BYU has had a pretty high strength of schedule.
crack
10/17/24 2:17pm
Idk Utah and KW seemed to sustain it for quite a few years
Polecat
10/17/24 2:17pm
But not every game for any season.
boctabulous
10/17/24 7:40pm
Well. They did for one season at least. Back in the MWC tho.
Polecat
10/17/24 7:42pm
I think you are wrong.
boctabulous
10/17/24 7:44pm
I don't know but a defensive foundation is far more sustainable than offensive
bythenumbers
10/17/24 2:18pm
based on what?
Genghis Spreads
10/17/24 3:11pm
Every football expert’s opinion, like ever . . .
theonick
10/17/24 6:45pm
“Offense wins games but defense wins championships.”
Genghis Spreads
10/17/24 10:17pm
How about this one - defense travels
theonick
10/18/24 6:38am
The greatest show on turf is probably the team that comes to mind.
boctabulous
10/18/24 9:22am
How’d that go against a very young Tom Brady
theonick
10/18/24 10:05am
Same way it went for most teams against the best team in history.
boctabulous
10/18/24 10:06am
Exactly, solid offense extremely effective defense = elite team
theonick
10/18/24 10:44am
Even if Washington played us and beat us, we were still a championship caliber
Genghis Spreads
10/18/24 10:03am
Theres going to be at least one game where the defense struggles
MaximusMeridius
10/17/24 4:01pm
There already was one: Baylor.
xgbs
10/17/24 5:20pm
"struggling" is forcing 2 turnovers, 2.3 yards per carry, and 56% pass comp?
MaximusMeridius
10/17/24 6:39pm
If the opponent runs an extremely conservative primarily running offense they
Reasonable1
10/17/24 4:01pm
Well that’s because we have a weak schedule.
Cougarclaw
10/17/24 2:17pm
RE: Jay Hill isn't messing around.
CougfromtheSouth
10/17/24 2:17pm
If Oklahoma St installs new QB, it could get beautifully ugly for OSU on Friday.
Blue Ghost
10/17/24 2:18pm
Or, just a massive run fest and no turnovers to get—which means offense will
Crowd Factor
10/17/24 2:27pm
Oh? Fumbles aren’t a thing in your reality? Also, 1 dimensional offenses aren’t
Saxa
10/17/24 2:30pm
Interestingly there were 3x as many fumbles than interceptions in NCAA last year
ochobeeguy
10/18/24 10:40am
OSU is second to last in Run Offense in the Big-12. And Colorado doesn't try.
Blue Ghost
10/17/24 2:31pm
That’s probably because OSU has been holding back their full run playbook
Crowd Factor
10/17/24 2:34pm
I'll take it. Ok St defense sucks.
YOHONOMOTO
10/17/24 10:08pm
Somebody better be getting the Brinks truck ready for when the season ends.
WillsPitStop
10/17/24 2:23pm
RE: Somebody better be getting the Brinks truck ready for when the season ends.
m0resn0w
10/17/24 2:26pm
That is amazing.
Hoosier Cougar
10/17/24 2:24pm
I don't think that's right...
Fightgar
10/17/24 2:47pm
30 people have viewed this and not one response??
Fightgar
10/17/24 2:53pm
4 people have viewed this and not one response??
Fightgar
10/17/24 2:54pm
I got you. Took time to get my slide rule out of my cargo shorts.
Section31 Coug
10/17/24 2:56pm
No - that's not what most likely means
Section31 Coug
10/17/24 2:54pm
Although I disagree, I thank you for your response.
Fightgar
10/17/24 2:55pm
After thinking it over, there's more truth to your point than I realized
Section31 Coug
10/17/24 3:23pm
I was sure that being drug through the front door would be an outcome.
kbufcoug
10/17/24 3:59pm
Sounds like someone got an ‘A’ in stats 121!!
7FootRussian
10/17/24 8:51pm
Consider rolling two dice
The Dark Knight
10/17/24 3:00pm
Put another way
The Dark Knight
10/17/24 3:06pm
For some reason, I just read it as "over 50% of the time, it ends in a turnover"
Fightgar
10/17/24 3:19pm
Both are true: most likely outcome is a turnover. Most likely something other th
Coug-Ida
10/17/24 4:17pm
It's right. 35% T.O., 33% punt, 14% TD, 14% FG, 4% end of half/game
Brandoblueblood
10/17/24 4:19pm
You are right. But it depends on how you frame the statement.
Blewis15
10/17/24 6:53pm
Here's the opponent drive information: Opponents have had 71 drives (not counting two 1-play drives at the end of
Spiff
10/17/24 8:57pm
Great post. Thanks. That is incredible and beautiful to look at.
boctabulous
10/18/24 9:23am
You should start a new thread with this post. It's really interesting data - I think more would like to see it.
HarlemCoug
10/18/24 9:30am
If there are more than 2 outcomes, most likely can be less than 50%.
ochobeeguy
10/18/24 10:43am
This is a killer stat. Great job.
DazeofBlue
10/17/24 2:58pm
That's insane. Also, most likely unsustainable
boctabulous
10/17/24 3:37pm
And long towards morning Wrubell breaks out a meaningful stat. 👏👏👏
KYU
10/17/24 4:19pm
Looking at it from an objective standpoint, it could mean that we are
chazen
10/17/24 5:37pm
Yeah, I wonder if a lot of our turnover on downs is in fourth quarter
viper
10/17/24 6:19pm
Of the 12 4th Down stops, 3 were in the 1st quarter, 1 in the 2nd, 4 in the 3rd, & 4 in the 4th.
Spiff
10/17/24 10:11pm
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