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Oct 13, 2024
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Helm Hammerhand

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Where Are All The Kalani Haters Now?

CHUNKman

Oct 13, 9:56am

Look, he deserved all the criticism he got. He also deserves a ton of credit

maxpowers

Oct 13, 9:57am

He didn’t deserve for people to forget 2020 and 2021, but this season is proving those seasons weren’t a mirage.

The 435

Oct 13, 9:59am

I agree with 2021–although iirc that was when the focus started to turn

Crowd Factor

Oct 13, 10:08am

This is a great misconception

canuckchuck

Oct 13, 11:51am

2021 defensively was horrible. Look at the stats. Offense was historic great.

Frankfromtheballpark

Oct 13, 12:00pm

And yet the same people who wanted Tuiaki fired in 2021 wanted ARod fired in

Junior Deputy

Oct 13, 2:00pm

By all objectionable metrics, Kalani has proven to only be mediocre as a HC

Frankfromtheballpark

Oct 13, 4:16pm

Tons of funny stuff in here, but the Grimes part might be the best

bluescholar

Oct 13, 4:19pm

You must not follow any other teams

deljdc

Oct 13, 5:16pm

You really struggle with math. BYU is highly ranked 3 of last 5 years. Much

NYC and Japan

Oct 14, 11:22am

No this season is proving that he should have fired Tuiaki years earlier

ColonelMustard

Oct 13, 2:54pm

He deserved criticism for losing games, however he did not deserve much of the

Polecat

Oct 13, 10:00am

No, he does not deserve all the criticism he gets.

kccougar

Oct 13, 10:24am

You had me until decade of mediocrity

canuckchuck

Oct 13, 11:48am

I’m giving him credit. He hired Jay Hill that is Big! One of the great hires in

44C

Oct 13, 3:00pm

Highly ranked 3 of the laast 5 years is not mediocrity

NYC and Japan

Oct 14, 11:16am

I was/am a Kalani doubter. He is doing fantastic this year. I will forgive an inevitable let down.

shimmy

Oct 13, 9:58am

He fired them already

Don_Juan_El_Guapo

Oct 13, 9:58am

Still here, hoping we don't lose Jay Hill who orchestrated this turn around

Mitty

Oct 13, 9:59am

Yup. This is all about Jay Hill.

BYUnerd

Oct 13, 10:00am

Do you mean the guy he added to the coaching staff?

juntao25

Oct 13, 1:03pm

5 years too late? YEAH, that guy.

JupiterJones

Oct 13, 1:10pm

Was Hill sitting around waiting for a BYU job offer 5 years ago?

juntao25

Oct 13, 6:41pm

Yep, Hill is responsible for dramatic O improvements, fewer injuries, S&C…

NYC and Japan

Oct 14, 11:25am

Who hired TJ Woods and the consultants the team is utilizing? And the new S&C

Polecat

Oct 13, 10:03am

You can't blame a guy for hiring one person and not credit him for hiring

SUAVO

Oct 13, 10:03am

But you can blame him for holding on to his Buddy and tanking the D for 5 years too long

byuTX

Oct 13, 10:05am

Exactly, so if you blame him for that you have to credit him for all the good

SUAVO

Oct 13, 10:13am

Correct. Which we do. Good DC hire for sure

byuTX

Oct 13, 10:18am

OL coach has been just as important of a hire. Has turned some Olineman around

SUAVO

Oct 13, 10:20am

Too bad he hired a disaster OL coach before the current OL coach

byuTX

Oct 13, 10:21am

You know why Funk was hired?

Zombre

Oct 13, 10:31am

Blame for the bad and credit for the good

SUAVO

Oct 13, 10:33am

Correct

byuTX

Oct 13, 10:35am

Of course then you’d have to explain your definition of tank because the

Polecat

Oct 13, 10:16am

Tank the program from where it was. Even sitake knows he messed up. Or do you disagree with his decision to fire Tuiaki?

byuTX

Oct 13, 10:19am

You just said the defense tanked for 5 seasons. I responded with a remark

Polecat

Oct 13, 10:30am

Ok thanks. You know what I meant. The D underperformed & Tuiaki needed to go. Surprised you disagree with Sitake’s move

byuTX

Oct 13, 10:36am

Kalani is a CEO. He gets credit for his staff.

shimmy

Oct 13, 10:06am

Who hired Hill?

Incentivize

Oct 13, 10:54am

Tell us you know nothing about a football program without telling us.

TheLoneCougar

Oct 13, 4:13pm

Where was Jay Hill for the other turnaround?

canuckchuck

Oct 13, 6:37pm

“Quickly” is the wrong word. D did not quickly turn around. Great this year, but

NYC and Japan

Oct 14, 11:27am

Your statement above shows you know very little about football.

slatecoug

Oct 13, 10:30pm

Amen. A lot of haters on this board. He’s been great and he has my full support

elmerfudd

Oct 13, 9:59am

Don’t think there are many actual haters. Most fans with concerns about Kalani

bluesloth

Oct 13, 10:06am

There seemed to be a fair amount that didn't want him to succeed so they could

SUAVO

Oct 13, 10:15am

There were none of those

byuTX

Oct 13, 10:37am

There was one, and he’s literally blind. I’d prefer to have a couple bad seasons and restart than be stuck in perpetual

shimmy

Oct 13, 11:05am

There was definitely more than one. Quite a few would, like yourself, didn't

SUAVO

Oct 13, 12:09pm

You’re freaking crazy if you thought I wasn’t cheering for Kalani and would rather have had a horrible season. That’s

shimmy

Oct 13, 3:56pm

You just posted that. "I'd prefer to have a couple bad seasons and start over

SUAVO

Oct 13, 4:03pm

Nobody wants KS not to SUCCEED. We want him not to SUCK.

Mitty

Oct 13, 1:21pm

There were plenty in the spring/summer who were just fine seeing this season

SUAVO

Oct 13, 1:24pm

Winning cures all, but when the team has lost there have been flat out mean

Polecat

Oct 13, 10:20am

This

ColonelMustard

Oct 13, 2:55pm

BYU isn’t even fully “resourced” yet for the P4…

NorCal_Coug

Oct 13, 10:42am

I’ve never hated him

byukarl

Oct 13, 10:48am

Kalani has changed intensity level/focus & hired Hill. Kudos. I'm loving this

Forzaitalia

Oct 13, 11:41am

RE: Where Are All The Kalani Haters Now?

rtl

Oct 13, 12:24pm

His biggest criticism is and has always been his failure to fire Tuiaki.

m_beav

Oct 13, 1:03pm

RE: Where Are All The Kalani Haters Now?

DrewGundy

Oct 13, 1:12pm

😬

gurt

Oct 13, 1:14pm

Happy to have a team in such a great place. We are fans of BYU much, much more than fans of our takes lol. I wonder if

byuTX

Oct 13, 1:37pm

Hate is such a stupid word. It’s criticism, and it was deserved. So is the

Helm Hammerhand

Oct 13, 1:44pm

I like Kalani. I think he is a great figurehead, but he isn’t perfect.

Boring

Oct 13, 2:26pm

RE: Where Are All The Kalani Haters Now?

KYU

Oct 13, 3:07pm

Wait til Jay Hill gets poached after this season

CharlottesvilleCoug

Oct 13, 3:56pm

Kalani owes Jay hill half his paycheck.

Idacoug

Oct 13, 4:32pm

No one has argued that Kalani wasn't one of the best dudes in all of football...

Shut_up

Oct 13, 4:54pm

They are waiting for their moment to shine

boctabulous

Oct 13, 5:49pm

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