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Update/repost: Still too early take on the roster and who is going to play.
roseyscenario
Work-in-Progress
Sep 8, 10:46pm
Is Mboup coming?
IdahoCoug
Sep 8, 10:56pm
Maybe. They're still trying.
roseyscenario
Sep 8, 11:03pm
Is it an academic thing, or something else?
IdahoCoug
Sep 8, 11:08pm
Tripple and Tripplet? For real?
Heath Squashwell
Sep 8, 11:10pm
And Trey. BYU is a 3 pt shooting team, after all.
Soupie
Sep 8, 11:12pm
Don't forget Traore.
Plantagenet
Sep 9, 10:15am
Wow, prognosis for Bosko that bad huh? Here I hoped we had found our
Mitty
Sep 8, 11:16pm
Boskovic probably is that good. At this point, belief is Mag and Catchings are a notch up from the able Waterman/Bosko.
roseyscenario
Sep 8, 11:18pm
Hope so but that would require a big leap on O from Mag and Catchings
Mitty
Sep 8, 11:24pm
If they don't get it done, Bosko moves up. So far, intel tells us Mag and Catchings are stronger players. Things change.
roseyscenario
Sep 8, 11:32pm
But Mag isn't really a 4. He's certainly strong & explosive enough, but 6'7 & short-armed. Given his foot-speed
SinkingQuffa
Sep 9, 9:55am
In the highlight video I saw of Boskovic playing against pros he looked REALLY
sandiegocgrfan
Sep 9, 1:24pm
He obviously needs work in the low post, but the size, strength, speed, skill & experience makes him our surest bet at 4
SinkingQuffa
Sep 9, 1:32pm
Agreed. The other video someone posted when the commit came out had a lot of him
sandiegocgrfan
Sep 9, 1:48pm
Yeah, I was 1 who posted that. It gave a good glimpse of his physicality & quickness but was vs much easier competition.
SinkingQuffa
Sep 9, 1:57pm
RE: Wow, prognosis for Bosko that bad huh? Here I hoped we had found our
SportsLover
Sep 9, 9:04am
He's much more physical than Waterman. If he's no better than rosey's saying, he was a waste.
SinkingQuffa
Sep 9, 9:24am
How does that make sense? You say he is not good. I said he is as good as Waterman and there might be players better.
roseyscenario
Sep 9, 9:34am
Then why do you have him ranked 12th on the team, behind 3 guys who very likely won't be in the rotation?
SinkingQuffa
Sep 9, 9:37am
RE: Then why do you have him ranked 12th on the team, behind 3 guys who very likely won't be in the rotation?
roseyscenario
Sep 9, 9:49am
Keita did not back up Carlson
Remigius
Sep 8, 11:53pm
You are right. edited. Fouss could win the #1 for 4th year. Keba is newer to the game and learning fast. Fouss has been
roseyscenario
Sep 9, 6:03am
Utah didn't use him right, imo. He shoulda left — if not to us — to someone else.
SinkingQuffa
Sep 9, 9:00am
I think you may be underestimating
LifeLongLakerFan
Sep 9, 12:09am
Could be. Instead of who?
roseyscenario
Sep 9, 5:52am
Mag and Catchings. Those two can play three as well, so they'll get min there.
LifeLongLakerFan
Sep 9, 9:41am
I think Mag was primarily a 3 in the planning before Boskovic & Mboup even signed on. And making Catchings work at the 4
SinkingQuffa
Sep 9, 11:46am
If Mag and Catchings share the 3, then who among Demin, Hall, Baker, Saunders, Knell go to the bench?
roseyscenario
Sep 9, 3:45pm
Catchings I'm sure wants some time playing his eventual position of PF. But it's really not a winning slot for him yet.
SinkingQuffa
Sep 9, 4:03pm
Your rotation is not impossible if Knell falls flat, which I doubt. But Baker will not see time at PG now that Demin &
roseyscenario
Sep 9, 4:16pm
If you want Baker's D to float for more than 15 min on our roster (& I think we both agree his offense needs
SinkingQuffa
Sep 9, 4:28pm
I don't recall saying they share the 3. I said they both CAN play the 3 as well.
LifeLongLakerFan
Sep 10, 11:10am
Good analysis, and I agree, BYU under-rated. Also think top 5 in B12, and
jaba166
Sep 9, 12:20am
Yes, Demin's intellectual and emotional maturity is off the charts. Expect big things from him on and off the court.
roseyscenario
Sep 9, 7:38am
Top 5 draft pick! That's a big statement.
Lifer
Sep 9, 8:45am
Let's see how he plays out. Lots of basketball people see that as plausible. That he's smart and likable helps his case.
roseyscenario
Sep 9, 8:56am
Mark this under "We'll have to wait and see."
Plantagenet
Sep 9, 10:20am
This is probably not the year to put BYU in the middle of the pack.
Plantagenet
Sep 9, 10:19am
Like what you’re saying but talented players need chemistry and time along with
44C
Sep 9, 10:54am
Yes, I agree. Winning 1 (or 2, or more) tourney games seems like really
jaba166
Sep 9, 8:31pm
#4 is wrong…Keita didn’t play behind Carlson, he played behind Lovering and as…
icecougar
Sep 9, 12:42am
Think you are undervaluing Boskovic
Projectoor
Sep 9, 5:20am
Good comments.
roseyscenario
Sep 9, 6:18am
If Baker is the 2nd best player on the team we could do better than win a couple
Lifer
Sep 9, 6:57am
Those close to the program last year think Baker is a stronger player than anyone BYU lost from last year.
roseyscenario
Sep 9, 8:53am
Can't wait to see him healthy! This team could be pretty special if it can jell
Lifer
Sep 9, 8:58am
Wow….Top 5….that’s definitely a 🌹 Rosey Scenario…I agree on Baker
44C
Sep 9, 6:50am
Biggest problem Mag will have is that both Keba and Fouss can’t shoot
JoeExotic
Sep 9, 7:10am
Defense still matters so I hope mag plays a lot
44C
Sep 9, 7:27am
This exactly. All the discussions about playing time are about individuals
runnincoug
Sep 9, 7:37am
Man it's going to be fun to watch how all of this plays out! So many options!
Lifer
Sep 9, 8:51am
no, you're 100% right. Knell is a pretty good defender, and better than Jax was
runnincoug
Sep 9, 9:13am
Fouss isn't as versatile as others, but saying he can't shoot is flat wrong
NYC and Japan
Sep 9, 9:51am
Fouss is extremely efficient ... in the paint. When people discuss his shooting
runnincoug
Sep 9, 9:55am
It's shorthand mainly for 3pt shooting, which Fouss takes too few of to be
Mitty
Sep 9, 10:01am
If he can’t hit the 3 at a decent clip I don’t consider him a shooter
JoeExotic
Sep 9, 11:14am
I’m seeing posts projecting top 5, even a top 3 finish in the B12. Get real!
DirtyWater
Sep 9, 7:43am
ok.. Top 2 it is baby
niqmadu
Sep 9, 1:49pm
This is 1 recruiting cycle for BYU. Kansas and Baylor have that sort of class
Thrill
Sep 9, 2:14pm
Fous is still the guy. I wish he were bigger, but he's just too good on offense.
cougargollum
Sep 9, 7:53am
He wasn't the starter or major minute guy last year. Why?
runnincoug
Sep 9, 8:17am
Healthy Fous will start.
Cougarbib
Sep 9, 8:21am
I believe he started until injured.
cougargollum
Sep 9, 8:50am
This is true.
PumaFanatico
Sep 9, 1:23pm
He is an undersized traditional 5 in a new game
Projectoor
Sep 9, 8:28am
I agree with most of that, but I don't think KY will fully run his ideal offense
cougargollum
Sep 9, 8:58am
KY doesn't have to "work with what he has". He's not a pauper w/ talent on team
runnincoug
Sep 9, 9:35am
You could be right, rosey. But I hope you're not. Cuz that rotation's defensively small & offensively has a low ceiling.
SinkingQuffa
Sep 9, 9:06am
1 disagree with that, as I do almost every time you discuss athleticism and size.
roseyscenario
Sep 9, 9:37am
The key comes down to coaching & management, of course. Which isn't addressed in these tally/usage posts by us.
SinkingQuffa
Sep 9, 9:40am
Is Baker really that good? In limited minutes last year he seemed more like a sixth-man scorer. I hope you're right.
cscougar
Sep 9, 9:40am
he was playing hurt.
HarlemCoug
Sep 9, 10:01am
Fair, but I didn't see elite shooting or athleticism, or above-average passing. I'm a little less convinced he'll be #2.
cscougar
Sep 9, 10:06am
You go watch his UCI highlights, you'll see elite shot creation and playmaking.
Mitty
Sep 9, 10:09am
I thought he looked great in his limited time. We SORELY needed his ball-handling, scoring & dynamic shooting. Too bad.
SinkingQuffa
Sep 9, 10:10am
Yes, we did need that last year.
Plantagenet
Sep 9, 10:28am
He & a corn-fed Marcus was really JUST what we needed for personnel. Even if Marcus coulda given us only 15 min per.
SinkingQuffa
Sep 9, 10:31am
Well, unconnected fans like me don't know but besides people close to the
Mitty
Sep 9, 10:05am
U never saw him healthy. Pure speculation on what he will bring. He is better
Cougarbib
Sep 9, 11:51am
i refuse to believe Baker is that high on the actual list of whats going to
buckeyecougarguy
Sep 9, 10:23am
If Baker is our best player with all that talent we brought in...
smootharch
Sep 9, 10:42am
Or Baker is just that good when healthy.
Lifer
Sep 9, 10:47am
I suspect it would be more accurately stated "#1 scorer" rather than "#1 player"
Mitty
Sep 9, 11:29am
At this point, with so many unknowns, I'm excited to see all of them play
OldFogey
Sep 9, 10:51am
Am I reading then your projected starting 5 is:
Mitty
Sep 9, 11:25am
There are 5 potential Final 4 contenders in the B12 not including BYU.
ninja math
Sep 9, 8:54pm
Finishing 5th or 6th is a great stretch goal in my mind, and the ceiling for
Mitty
Sep 10, 9:52am
It's not all that young. Hall, Fouss, Keta, Mag, Saunders, Knell, Baker are all
LifeLongLakerFan
Sep 10, 11:14am
I play Cougar Fantasy basketball on Google Sheets with my family, have to choose
CaughtForaTouchdown
Sep 10, 9:42am
Love Fouss, but Baker is the better pick. How does it work if your player misses games?
roseyscenario
Sep 10, 9:47am
We can keep one player from year to year.
CaughtForaTouchdown
Sep 10, 10:01am
I'd pick Baker given that choice but there the injury risk with both so.....?
Soupie
Sep 10, 9:48am
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