The vast majority of fans did not want to fire Pope. Also Kalani is not Pope.

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Aug 2, 2024
10:16:12am

tacallaway All-American

For starters, Pope got poached by a blueblood. That's not happening with Sitake.

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So it seems like a thing now to hate on Kalani? The negativity is exhausting.

Lcoug

Aug 2, 10:04am

It’s a vocal minority and it is exhausting

kC Cougar

Aug 2, 10:05am

It is exhausting that some on here have accepted his results. His predecessor

kimdaddy35

Aug 2, 10:19am

Now factor in that the predecessor had the most success in the first half

donnerstag

Aug 2, 11:14am

now factor in that his predecessor said "If I were to be really blunt about it, I took [BYU] as far as I could"

TheLost

Aug 2, 11:35am

Then he went on to do worse than he'd done at BYU.

dYrtbYkerYder

Aug 2, 12:25pm

You guys will never not have an excuse.

kimdaddy35

Aug 2, 11:38am

The Bronco fans...

TheLost

Aug 2, 11:41am

2016 is probably Sitake's best year.

BlueFever

Aug 2, 12:06pm

2016 team had a good defense

donnerstag

Aug 2, 12:20pm

They were elite against garbage teams. I would put the talent of the 2016

kimdaddy35

Aug 2, 12:30pm

There's no question the 2016 team had more talent on defense

donnerstag

Aug 2, 12:55pm

Was 2020 that good on offense? The defenses they faced other than CC were awful

kimdaddy35

Aug 2, 1:00pm

Your lone argument is a game that BYU didn't have prep time for

donnerstag

Aug 2, 1:05pm

Those teams all beat good teams. The 2020 team did not. And to specify I am

kimdaddy35

Aug 2, 1:21pm

What good team did the 2016 team beat?

slatecoug

Aug 2, 2:21pm

That is a fair question, as I recall the schedule was pretty good but I would

kimdaddy35

Aug 2, 2:33pm

The 2016 team was 3-3 against P5, and the losses were all close.

BlueFever

Aug 2, 12:43pm

You need a little more analysis than the team 3-3 against P5

donnerstag

Aug 2, 1:02pm

lol.

BlueFever

Aug 2, 1:38pm

No. The 2020 team crushed its opponents by 4 TDs on average

donnerstag

Aug 2, 1:46pm

It doesn't matter what your data says.

BlueFever

Aug 2, 2:54pm

It actually does matter what the data says

donnerstag

Aug 2, 3:02pm

Funny coming from you that thinks Kalani's wins/losses, average finish rank, SOS

kimdaddy35

Aug 2, 3:11pm

The data doesn't overrule what was seen on the field.

BlueFever

Aug 2, 3:13pm

How did you get to the labels of good and bad for that schedule?

donnerstag

Aug 2, 3:53pm

ALL of your data is subjective, not facts, so it's pointless for you to

BlueFever

Aug 2, 4:41pm

No. Margin of victory and NFL draft picks are facts

donnerstag

Aug 2, 5:38pm

and to have it before the season even starts is asinine.

ManicBlue

Aug 2, 10:06am

RE: and to have it before the season even starts is asinine.

Prickly Heat

Aug 2, 1:53pm

Remember 1 year ago when everyone was wanting to fire Pope?

RGGeemer

Aug 2, 10:10am

The vast majority of fans did not want to fire Pope. Also Kalani is not Pope.

tacallaway

Aug 2, 10:16am

Nobody expected UK to take Pope haha even after our awesome year. There were

RGGeemer

Aug 2, 10:18am

It was definitely unexpected and a reach by Kentucky

tacallaway

Aug 2, 10:22am

That's my point. 1 year can change everything. Pope would NOT have been

RGGeemer

Aug 2, 11:05am

But Pope had a much better resume coming into the B12 than Kalani.

tacallaway

Aug 2, 11:15am

Did he? Took 5th in the WCC. 0 ncaa tournament wins (still even now). Kalani

RGGeemer

Aug 2, 11:19am

Pope's best resume bullet for UK was winning the ncaa championship as a player

RGGeemer

Aug 2, 11:20am

.679 vs .598 win %

tacallaway

Aug 2, 11:33am

I'm just saying, let's see what happens. Stop piling on our own team/coach.

RGGeemer

Aug 2, 11:34am

I just want accountability. I'd love for Sitake to be successful.

tacallaway

Aug 2, 11:44am

Maybe we should have given Tuiaki a chance too

Huge Manatee

Aug 2, 10:10am

Yes we should ignore 8 years of data because we changed conferences.

kimdaddy35

Aug 2, 10:13am

I'll admit I'm critical of Kalani but I want him to turn it around

CameronG

Aug 2, 10:17am

Nope. I want him gone.

DeepCCoug

Aug 2, 11:52am

Big Detmer fan? I mean this happened 7 years ago. Detmer seems to be in good

Lcoug

Aug 2, 12:00pm

BYU handled that issue extremely poorly. It was a bad mistake and they know it.

DeepCCoug

Aug 2, 12:05pm

I agree but my point is it was a long time ago. I’d let it go if it were me

Lcoug

Aug 2, 12:24pm

To each his own.

DeepCCoug

Aug 2, 12:55pm

Are people condemning him based off one season, or his whole body of work? If

BYUtka

Aug 2, 10:23am

He doesn't get me excited about BYU fotball. That is the litmus test for me

Croweater

Aug 2, 10:26am

That is a "you" problem then. Im so freaking excited for byu football to start!

viper

Aug 2, 1:40pm

Sure but 2020 and 2021 were great. The Big12 is a whole different beast and

Lcoug

Aug 2, 11:00am

I detest the hate but will defend the right of these silly folks to opine

WallaX2

Aug 2, 10:31am

I saw a lot of quit in last year's team, and that has to be on the HC and his

BlueFever

Aug 2, 10:52am

I can understand skepticism, but not the disrespect

Traveling Coug

Aug 2, 10:52am

What does calling TOs at the beginning of drives, quarters, or halves have to do

ldssdl

Aug 2, 11:06am

He’s certainly not perfect but I can find as many, if not more, positives to

Lcoug

Aug 2, 11:52am

I'm going to pretend I didn't just read that post

acadian8

Aug 2, 7:01pm

I see no posts hating on kalani

Deleted

Aug 2, 11:21am

RE: I see no posts hating on kalani

OldFogey

Aug 2, 11:37am

His past performance is not opinion or speculation. He wasn't good enough before

here's to hoping

Aug 2, 11:23am

If 2020 and 2021 finishes (in independence nonetheless) weren’t good enough then

Lcoug

Aug 2, 11:50am

If you think 2020 was at all predictive of the future, you're not looking at the

ldssdl

Aug 2, 12:36pm

So then what is acceptable. 2017 sucked. 23 was meh. 18, 19, 22 were average for

Lcoug

Aug 2, 1:09pm

CB was dying to get rid of Bronco by the end, who averaged 9 wins per season,

ldssdl

Aug 2, 1:34pm

There are only 4 other P4 schools who have been P4 schools for <2 years.

Lcoug

Aug 2, 1:40pm

Considering Holmoe pulled a rabbit out of his hat with Kevin Young, I don’t see

ldssdl

Aug 2, 3:17pm

KS has proven to only be as good as his coordinators.

here's to hoping

Aug 2, 12:57pm

Let’s dive into it then.

Lcoug

Aug 2, 1:10pm

He’s already been given more time than most college coaches get. It’s amazing

here's to hoping

Aug 2, 7:03pm

I've muted football here. The entitled fans are really annoying.

refunder

Aug 2, 11:56am

How did you find this post?

here's to hoping

Aug 2, 12:59pm

It shows on the front page of CB

refunder

Aug 2, 1:19pm

It’s not new. It’s more pronounced following an awful year

cajuncoug

Aug 2, 12:07pm

A lot of the "haters" are actually just BYU haters (AKA Yewts)

Brandoblueblood

Aug 2, 12:14pm

All the Ute fans I know hope Kalani stays here a long time.

tacallaway

Aug 2, 12:26pm

I'm sure they do.

DeepCCoug

Aug 2, 12:57pm

It's the KY comparison.

EDthoracotomy

Aug 2, 12:31pm

People see what they want to see. I can’t imagine living in such a negative spa

niqmadu

Aug 2, 12:39pm

It's really hot and humid living in a spa, but I'm doing the best I can.

here's to hoping

Aug 2, 1:01pm

on the other hand, maybe some cold therapy would be good for them

niqmadu

Aug 2, 1:17pm

I think that's true. I'm usually in a better mood when I'm not too hot.

here's to hoping

Aug 2, 2:27pm

Part of the cycle. As soon as BYU has a good year the same people will talk

AFitisemanu

Aug 2, 1:10pm

I've been ready to silence the football category because of it

BlueTemplar

Aug 2, 1:38pm

Couple more years? Haven’t we been saying that for 8 years now?

YbeatsU

Aug 2, 3:15pm

Par for the course on this board. Negativity

millar667

Aug 2, 3:17pm

RE: Par for the course on this board. Negativity

coventry94

Aug 2, 4:00pm

RE: Par for the course on this board. Negativity

OldFogey

Aug 2, 6:14pm

I wish I could agree

gurt

Aug 2, 4:57pm

I think this is a fair take. Now isn’t the time for him to go but it certainly

Lcoug

Aug 2, 6:43pm

Agreed. The season hasn't even started.

Big McLargeHuge

Aug 2, 10:59pm

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