Which is very good..... But not elite. But BYU wasn't a national title contender or even a playoff contender with Hall.

Utah's best argument is with their defense, which traditionally has been excellent.

Cam Rising is just the most unusual aspect for Utah because it hasn't been the norm for Utah to have that good of a QB (again realizing that he's very good, not elite. And assuming he's more or less back to what he was, which may or may not be valid)