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Jun 29, 2024
10:23:25pm

Scratch All-American

Remember how Sagarin said the P12 was better than the B12 last year? And that

was a B12 with Texas and Oklahoma?

But let’s focus on a single game instead.

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Originally posted on Jun 29, 2024 at 10:23:25pm

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Jay Hill’s warning to Utah is correct. He’s just trying to help them. They’re in for a rude awakening. Remember how

RdF3 Inactive user

6/29/24 10:13pm

Remember how Sagarin said the P12 was better than the B12 last year? And that

Scratch

6/29/24 10:23pm

Until rising proves he can beat a non-pac12 p4 team, it’s a fair criticism

Longseason

6/29/24 10:25pm

Yep. Utes hate road trips, and they're going to have some long ones in Big12

runnincoug

6/29/24 10:43pm

Their schedule is pretty light this year.

davidmj10

6/30/24 8:39am

True. Keeping the orphan 4 together is a huge advantage for them

Longseason

6/30/24 9:17am

Arizona is going to be a tough team this year most likely.

davidmj10

6/30/24 12:29pm

Ok so he lost to Ohio State, Penn State, and Florida and the only game he

uteman13

6/30/24 11:09am

Sagarin??? He was bad enough in BCS days, and now he copies the FPI. You must

88Coug

6/29/24 10:35pm

How did Utah do last year in that amazing P12?

puntersarepeople

6/29/24 10:44pm

If BYU was in the PAC 12. We would have a lost Rose Bowl also.

ParentingNotForSissy

6/30/24 12:13pm

Still beating that PAC drum. It’s ok. Let it go.

Sparkling Delirium

6/30/24 7:57pm

Jay Hill better watch himself. Does he not know these teams come from the [gssp] pac 12?

Bob Vance

6/29/24 10:32pm

The way to beat Utah is with a good power running game. That's half the Big 12

byusage

6/29/24 10:45pm

Not sure I agree. Man defense is built to stop the run.

TheRowdy

6/29/24 11:56pm

The strength of Utah's defense is physical bump and run man coverage and

byusage

6/30/24 3:00pm

You make good points. I think you’ll see the Utes struggle more with middle of

puntersarepeople

6/30/24 3:07pm

I think the utes will actually fair better in the Big 12 than their fellow P12 members. The utes only succeeded with an

ManicBlue

6/30/24 12:23am

Utah and whit will have no problem. His teams have always been physical.

Idacoug

6/30/24 6:06am

Yeah, BYU fan can deny and downplay a lot of things about Utah football, but

CallSign

6/30/24 7:31am

Just by recruiting geographies that should be plainly obvious. Teams that rely on West Coast recruits v. teams

mokelembembe

6/30/24 7:05am

This is just him saying something because he had to say something

Strawhat4life

6/30/24 7:51am

I do think the Big 12 is generally more physical than the PAC; see linked analysis

krindorr

6/30/24 10:55am

That makes sense, I can see the argument that OG big12 members

Strawhat4life

6/30/24 5:34pm

The RBs in the B12 are a force. Historically P12 RBs weren’t too shabby

Srg

6/30/24 9:05am

Wasn’t utahs schedule ranked one of the easiest in the big 12 this year? I don’t

6/30/24 10:47am

So, I am no fan of the Utes, but

6/30/24 12:37pm

I hope the other schools have been paying close attention to the fact that

BlueFever

6/30/24 12:57pm

Where is that? I’m not sure some people saying they’re the favorite is already

Scratch

6/30/24 3:08pm

Semantics.

BlueFever

6/30/24 3:26pm

Semantics? Seriously? That’s a huge difference.

Scratch

6/30/24 4:05pm

You're not fooling anyone with this charade, my friend.

BlueFever

7/1/24 7:31am

Of course I don't think that. I don't know anyone who does. I'd say they're

Scratch

7/1/24 10:17am

Let's see what some of your comrades are saying:

BlueFever

7/1/24 10:33am

Wow. That's not at all what that means. I do love that that's the best you can

Scratch

7/1/24 10:40am

I didn't see "reasonable goal" anywhere in that post, did you?

BlueFever

7/1/24 11:00am

That's essentially what he says. There certainly isn't anything there about it

Scratch

7/1/24 11:09am

No, when the bar for this guy is the playoffs,

BlueFever

7/1/24 11:17am

Not true. "Setting the bar" is the level at which you will consider yourself a

Scratch

7/1/24 11:33am

You don't even understand your own fanbase. lol

BlueFever

7/1/24 12:06pm

He said a rude awakening as far as physicality of the league. Yes, the Big Xll

6/30/24 1:11pm

The Utes think all their answers to their offensive woes will be solved

I'mBatman

6/30/24 1:26pm

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