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Feb 27, 2024
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Pretorian

Previous username: PoopTown LLC
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Joined: Oct 23, 2013
Last login: Sep 7, 2024
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BYU picked to finish last in upcoming Big 12 football. That aint going to happen

Zip

Feb 26, 6:11pm

You never win “coach of the year” when you are picked first.

Brigham

Feb 26, 6:17pm

Kalani ball!

Idacoug

Feb 26, 6:21pm

Cant wait to watch the Utes crash and burn

BYU Grounds

Feb 26, 6:25pm

Weak OL. Unproven QB. Only won 2 last year in conf.

VB2

Feb 26, 6:26pm

I mean...we finished tied for 2nd to last place in 23...with Jay Hill's defense

NOCAL_YFAN

Feb 26, 6:49pm

Fine, but we will be better because of Jay Hill.

Plantagenet

Feb 27, 12:41pm

An unproven QB would actually improve our odds (unless it’s Bohanon)

byuTX

Feb 26, 8:02pm

I think the offensive line will improve. The returnees have more experience, and

84 natlchamps

Feb 26, 8:56pm

We've heard this for the past 35 years. Well, not the new coach, but, the maturity, returning RMs, potential

CoogsWin

Feb 26, 11:15pm

Isn't BYU known for excellent Oline? 35 years is too long.

Plantagenet

Feb 27, 12:43pm

You don't like Connor Pay, Weylin Lapuaho, and Brayden Keim. Caleb Etienne is

84 natlchamps

Feb 27, 12:59pm

We're so thin...we're basically 5-6 deep if Etienne pans out. Gonna be tough

stansburycoug

Feb 27, 1:40pm

Kalani is still our HC. We do not have a QB. Finishing last is not entirely out

TheMediator

Feb 26, 6:37pm

The key to what you said is "Kalani is still our HC." Truer words have never bee

TrueBlue67

Feb 26, 7:57pm

Unless he learns how to be a P4 coach this off-season this is his second to last year IMO. Just gotta hold on til ‘26

byuTX

Feb 26, 8:03pm

Haven't you heard? Hill won't improve the program, get good recruits or any of

Polecat

Feb 26, 7:26pm

They’d have to have a pretty epic collapse to finish there.

D.T. Survivor

Feb 26, 7:33pm

One more loss than last year isn’t an epic collapse

byuTX

Feb 26, 8:05pm

Is that all it would take? Yikes. That could happen pretty easily.

D.T. Survivor

Feb 26, 8:06pm

We finished one win out of last place last year. I hope you’re right and that we improve and at a rate faster than other

byuTX

Feb 26, 8:24pm

but OU and Texas aren’t on the schedule. all of a sudden two games got easier

FieroCoug

Feb 26, 8:59pm

We had a theoretical shot in those. Would have beaten OU with an D1 QB. Utah is a certain loss.

byuTX

Feb 26, 9:23pm

utah isn’t even in the same conversation as OU, or at least not a serious one.

FieroCoug

Feb 27, 8:45pm

Haha ok. BYU has beaten Utah once under Kalani. Virtually no shot while he’s at byu and KW is at Utah. OU is much easier

byuTX

Feb 27, 8:57pm

there’s been 2 games by more than one possession under kalani. 1-1

FieroCoug

Feb 28, 12:18pm

That span covers 1 actual game. Every non OU fan knows Utah is a far more difficult game for this staff

byuTX

Feb 28, 1:28pm

that’s a good point. they’ve done a great job at preparing for the big games

FieroCoug

Feb 29, 10:24am

BYU is only half the equation. OU doesn't spend an entire off season and extra practices every week prepping for BYU. As

byuTX

Feb 29, 11:53am

They got easier for everybody else too.

Stalwartbob

Feb 27, 7:25am

most didn’t play both OU and texas though

FieroCoug

Feb 27, 8:44pm

I’m buying…KS ain’t got the goods for this job.

rmarkerm

Feb 26, 8:27pm

Everyone was saying Pope "aint got the goods for this job" too

TaysomJimmerEraCoug

Feb 26, 8:58pm

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TaysomJimmerEraCoug

Feb 27, 10:36pm

Hate to break it to you, but Hill's recruiting class will need time to mature.

LateToTheGame

Feb 26, 8:49pm

Do they know Colorado and ASU joined the Big 12?

Bobmarleyjr

Feb 26, 10:05pm

Colorado I could see a wide range of potential outcomes....but being picked below ASU is pretty insulting

krindorr

Feb 27, 12:01am

Who is picking BYU last - I haven't seen that anywhere

krindorr

Feb 27, 12:32am

Even FanDuel (who has BYU with the lowest over/under) has ASU and Houston behind us

krindorr

Feb 27, 7:47pm

Vegas has BYU/ASU/UH with lowest win totals.

stansburycoug

Feb 27, 8:16pm

I get that we don't know how to read gambling lines, but they have us third to last

krindorr

Feb 27, 8:56pm

Ya I'm just guessing how people got there

stansburycoug

Feb 28, 9:43am

Yeah ASU is in the league now. We’ll be next to last. Third to last if Deion

Cooouuugs

Feb 27, 6:37am

The unique thing about the B12 is there really isn’t a Vanderbilt or or Perdue

Pretorian

Feb 27, 7:52am

Least successful P4.5 teams of the last decade (by the numbers)

krindorr

Feb 27, 8:06am

You don’t know that and it wasn’t the case last season.

CallSign

Feb 27, 11:23am

Well the data supports it

Pretorian

Feb 27, 9:07pm

What data? There’s 1 year of data with new G5 teams in the B12 and all 4 of you

CallSign

Feb 28, 10:19am

Look at kindor above

Pretorian

Feb 28, 6:07pm

Krindorr lists 3 Big 12 teams in bottom 15 and that excludes the 4 G5 teams

CallSign

Feb 29, 10:45am

Read what I said… those 3 teams are all trending up for the last few years and

Pretorian

Feb 29, 11:06am

Sure, but Kansas replaced by Baylor, UA by ASU and Colorado is still down. Add

CallSign

Feb 29, 11:20am

You can be negative about the future if you want, I’ll be positive, my statement

Pretorian

Feb 29, 1:50pm

True, and we're not going to take on that role...UTEP, Vanderbuilt, Utah (post

Plantagenet

Feb 27, 12:45pm

PAC South has fired more coaches than any P5 in last 13 years

Bobmarleyjr

Feb 27, 5:36pm

The Big12 like the Big10, Sec, and ACC were always top heavy.

Big-Q

Feb 29, 9:59am

Maybe not last but near the bottom would be most likely. I predict a similar...

Big-Q

Feb 27, 8:22am

So kind of like byu basketball this year?

viper

Feb 27, 9:05am

Nothing has changed in high school recruiting. No star QB recruits. Zilch.

TexDaddy

Feb 27, 10:09am

Surprised we haven't heard from irate Ute fans who find they are picked 2nd.

Agaricus

Feb 27, 10:18am

So it's true--Utah is going to go through the XII like swiss cheese.

Plantagenet

Feb 27, 12:41pm

It very well could. We have an emo mascot for a HC and 8 QBs. Anything is possible.

Haysom Till

Feb 27, 1:07pm

Quantity over quality. I think we offered 6 but ended up with 3.

TexDaddy

Feb 27, 1:25pm

We took Baylor's 3rd string QB. Seems good.

TexDaddy

Feb 27, 1:26pm

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