Least successful P4.5 teams of the last decade (by the numbers)

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Feb 27, 2024
8:06:50am

krindorr Playmaker

Kansas
Vanderbilt
Rutgers
Illinois
Oregon St
Purdue
Virginia
Syracuse
Colorado
Arizona
Arkansas
Indiana
Georgia Tech
Boston College
Cal

This is weighting each year of the last decade equally and making basic corrections for opponent quality.

UCF, Cincinnati, and likely Houston would probably also fall into that group, but I left them out due to less data.

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BYU picked to finish last in upcoming Big 12 football. That aint going to happen

Zip

Feb 26, 6:11pm

You never win “coach of the year” when you are picked first.

Brigham

Feb 26, 6:17pm

Kalani ball!

Idacoug

Feb 26, 6:21pm

Cant wait to watch the Utes crash and burn

BYU Grounds

Feb 26, 6:25pm

Weak OL. Unproven QB. Only won 2 last year in conf.

VB2

Feb 26, 6:26pm

I mean...we finished tied for 2nd to last place in 23...with Jay Hill's defense

NOCAL_YFAN

Feb 26, 6:49pm

Fine, but we will be better because of Jay Hill.

Plantagenet

Feb 27, 12:41pm

An unproven QB would actually improve our odds (unless it’s Bohanon)

byuTX

Feb 26, 8:02pm

I think the offensive line will improve. The returnees have more experience, and

84 natlchamps

Feb 26, 8:56pm

We've heard this for the past 35 years. Well, not the new coach, but, the maturity, returning RMs, potential

CoogsWin

Feb 26, 11:15pm

Isn't BYU known for excellent Oline? 35 years is too long.

Plantagenet

Feb 27, 12:43pm

You don't like Connor Pay, Weylin Lapuaho, and Brayden Keim. Caleb Etienne is

84 natlchamps

Feb 27, 12:59pm

We're so thin...we're basically 5-6 deep if Etienne pans out. Gonna be tough

stansburycoug

Feb 27, 1:40pm

Kalani is still our HC. We do not have a QB. Finishing last is not entirely out

TheMediator

Feb 26, 6:37pm

The key to what you said is "Kalani is still our HC." Truer words have never bee

TrueBlue67

Feb 26, 7:57pm

Unless he learns how to be a P4 coach this off-season this is his second to last year IMO. Just gotta hold on til ‘26

byuTX

Feb 26, 8:03pm

Haven't you heard? Hill won't improve the program, get good recruits or any of

Polecat

Feb 26, 7:26pm

They’d have to have a pretty epic collapse to finish there.

D.T. Survivor

Feb 26, 7:33pm

One more loss than last year isn’t an epic collapse

byuTX

Feb 26, 8:05pm

Is that all it would take? Yikes. That could happen pretty easily.

D.T. Survivor

Feb 26, 8:06pm

We finished one win out of last place last year. I hope you’re right and that we improve and at a rate faster than other

byuTX

Feb 26, 8:24pm

but OU and Texas aren’t on the schedule. all of a sudden two games got easier

FieroCoug

Feb 26, 8:59pm

We had a theoretical shot in those. Would have beaten OU with an D1 QB. Utah is a certain loss.

byuTX

Feb 26, 9:23pm

utah isn’t even in the same conversation as OU, or at least not a serious one.

FieroCoug

Feb 27, 8:45pm

Haha ok. BYU has beaten Utah once under Kalani. Virtually no shot while he’s at byu and KW is at Utah. OU is much easier

byuTX

Feb 27, 8:57pm

there’s been 2 games by more than one possession under kalani. 1-1

FieroCoug

Feb 28, 12:18pm

That span covers 1 actual game. Every non OU fan knows Utah is a far more difficult game for this staff

byuTX

Feb 28, 1:28pm

that’s a good point. they’ve done a great job at preparing for the big games

FieroCoug

Feb 29, 10:24am

BYU is only half the equation. OU doesn't spend an entire off season and extra practices every week prepping for BYU. As

byuTX

Feb 29, 11:53am

They got easier for everybody else too.

Stalwartbob

Feb 27, 7:25am

most didn’t play both OU and texas though

FieroCoug

Feb 27, 8:44pm

I’m buying…KS ain’t got the goods for this job.

rmarkerm

Feb 26, 8:27pm

Everyone was saying Pope "aint got the goods for this job" too

TaysomJimmerEraCoug

Feb 26, 8:58pm

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TaysomJimmerEraCoug

Feb 27, 10:36pm

Hate to break it to you, but Hill's recruiting class will need time to mature.

LateToTheGame

Feb 26, 8:49pm

Do they know Colorado and ASU joined the Big 12?

Bobmarleyjr

Feb 26, 10:05pm

Colorado I could see a wide range of potential outcomes....but being picked below ASU is pretty insulting

krindorr

Feb 27, 12:01am

Who is picking BYU last - I haven't seen that anywhere

krindorr

Feb 27, 12:32am

Even FanDuel (who has BYU with the lowest over/under) has ASU and Houston behind us

krindorr

Feb 27, 7:47pm

Vegas has BYU/ASU/UH with lowest win totals.

stansburycoug

Feb 27, 8:16pm

I get that we don't know how to read gambling lines, but they have us third to last

krindorr

Feb 27, 8:56pm

Ya I'm just guessing how people got there

stansburycoug

Feb 28, 9:43am

Yeah ASU is in the league now. We’ll be next to last. Third to last if Deion

Cooouuugs

Feb 27, 6:37am

The unique thing about the B12 is there really isn’t a Vanderbilt or or Perdue

Pretorian

Feb 27, 7:52am

Least successful P4.5 teams of the last decade (by the numbers)

krindorr

Feb 27, 8:06am

You don’t know that and it wasn’t the case last season.

CallSign

Feb 27, 11:23am

Well the data supports it

Pretorian

Feb 27, 9:07pm

What data? There’s 1 year of data with new G5 teams in the B12 and all 4 of you

CallSign

Feb 28, 10:19am

Look at kindor above

Pretorian

Feb 28, 6:07pm

Krindorr lists 3 Big 12 teams in bottom 15 and that excludes the 4 G5 teams

CallSign

Feb 29, 10:45am

Read what I said… those 3 teams are all trending up for the last few years and

Pretorian

Feb 29, 11:06am

Sure, but Kansas replaced by Baylor, UA by ASU and Colorado is still down. Add

CallSign

Feb 29, 11:20am

You can be negative about the future if you want, I’ll be positive, my statement

Pretorian

Feb 29, 1:50pm

True, and we're not going to take on that role...UTEP, Vanderbuilt, Utah (post

Plantagenet

Feb 27, 12:45pm

PAC South has fired more coaches than any P5 in last 13 years

Bobmarleyjr

Feb 27, 5:36pm

The Big12 like the Big10, Sec, and ACC were always top heavy.

Big-Q

Feb 29, 9:59am

Maybe not last but near the bottom would be most likely. I predict a similar...

Big-Q

Feb 27, 8:22am

So kind of like byu basketball this year?

viper

Feb 27, 9:05am

Nothing has changed in high school recruiting. No star QB recruits. Zilch.

TexDaddy

Feb 27, 10:09am

Surprised we haven't heard from irate Ute fans who find they are picked 2nd.

Agaricus

Feb 27, 10:18am

So it's true--Utah is going to go through the XII like swiss cheese.

Plantagenet

Feb 27, 12:41pm

It very well could. We have an emo mascot for a HC and 8 QBs. Anything is possible.

Haysom Till

Feb 27, 1:07pm

Quantity over quality. I think we offered 6 but ended up with 3.

TexDaddy

Feb 27, 1:25pm

We took Baylor's 3rd string QB. Seems good.

TexDaddy

Feb 27, 1:26pm

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