And Sagarin rankings suck. They are entirely point-based

Dec 3, 2023
8:21:48pm

BYUDM93 3rd String

It's a rating system entirely built on style points. Even the strength-of-schedule ratings are based first on ranking, which is built on points scored and point differentials.

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BYUDM93

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Author

Time

Statement from FSU AD

Adam_Pontipee

12/3/23 10:52am

It's only damaged today because FSU didn't get what they wanted....

WJCougar

12/3/23 10:53am

He's right. Their QB went down but they still won games because of their Defense

jrifkin48

12/3/23 11:46am

And FSU has been just fine with that....until today.

WJCougar

12/3/23 11:49am

That’s the very purpose of a committee.

eyebleedblu

12/3/23 12:15pm

^This - the criteria has always been rediculas

ABCoug

12/3/23 1:47pm

Dang that's pretty scathing

Kajdin

12/3/23 10:53am

Did he issue the same statement supporting ucf a few years ago. Or what about

cougarfann888

12/3/23 10:53am

He said P5…this isn’t hard

ordinary tri guy

12/3/23 10:55am

Ok and someone else said sec. It's the exact same argument

cougarfann888

12/3/23 10:57am

Sec>acc> non p5 that's not hard to understand either

cougarfann888

12/3/23 10:57am

Probably true, but that's subjective.

Loyal2Royal

12/3/23 11:26am

Agree but there is irony of a blue blood making this argument now.

cougarfann888

12/3/23 11:33am

I have no sympathy for FSU, but it doesn't bode well for BYU.

NumbersGuy

12/3/23 1:06pm

We are going to a 12 team playoff next year

Hutch65

12/3/23 1:18pm

But what if we're 12-1 or 11-2 with a CCG loss, does that mean we'll get left out for a 9-3 SEC team?

krindorr

12/3/23 1:29pm

I would probably expect to be left out

Hutch65

12/3/23 1:30pm

no it’s not. there’s hundreds of games that decide it. G5 is closer to FCS than P5. Michigan had just as easy a schedule

FieroCoug

12/3/23 4:29pm

That shows you don't know what you are talking about. I almost guarentee

cougarfann888

12/3/23 5:05pm

G5 used to be closer but not anymore. in the strength ratings that include fcs teams, fcs teams make it higher up in the

FieroCoug

12/3/23 5:12pm

in sagarin there are 18 FCS schools in the top 130. in fact the highest fcs is higher than the highest G5.

FieroCoug

12/3/23 5:15pm

And Sagarin rankings suck. They are entirely point-based

BYUDM93

12/3/23 8:21pm

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Jcaps

12/3/23 12:16pm

I agree except we are talking about a

HonestTakes

12/3/23 12:19pm

Except the acc was a weak p5 this year. As was the pac. But uw beat a strong uo

BYU '80

12/3/23 2:37pm

There were only two conferences with winning OOC records vs other P5s. And those were the ACC and the PAC

krindorr

12/3/23 2:52pm

And that is a worthless stat. What were the matchups?

BYU '80

12/3/23 2:57pm

Frankly, if you're looking for good OOC wins, there's really only 3

krindorr

12/3/23 3:05pm

According to Sagarin, he actually has the PAC as the STRONGEST conference

krindorr

12/3/23 3:08pm

Umm. No. That PAC narrative does not reflect the reality of this season. All of

BYUDM93

12/3/23 8:27pm

Signed Cincinnati. Also signed all of the G5s who have won a ny6 over a p5

BYU '80

12/3/23 2:36pm

RE: Sec>acc> non p5 that's not hard to understand either

Mormons4Coffee

12/3/23 3:42pm

FSU unfortunately isnt P2 though, which is more important than P5

ABCoug

12/3/23 1:49pm

Agree 100%

displacedute

12/3/23 10:53am

I agree 100% with everything he said.

Duke Silver

12/3/23 10:53am

I’ve never really liked them, but they’ve been hosed.

Nittany Cougar

12/3/23 10:54am

Good write up and I agree FSU was robbed.

ADK

12/3/23 10:54am

They were never going to leave out the sec. FSU isn’t the same without the qb

BYU '80

12/3/23 2:38pm

fsu still beat a top 15 team by 10, in bad weather, with a 3rd string freshman QB. FSU is a dang good team. not just QB

FieroCoug

12/3/23 4:30pm

Unfortunately for them the sample size was too small with backup QB

ABCoug

12/3/23 5:09pm

So true and so frustrating. Why even play a regular season?

ordinary tri guy

12/3/23 10:55am

Wouldn’t it be funny if they found a judge willing to issue an injunction and

blueaussie

12/3/23 10:55am

Maybe they could organize a rally and storm the stadium

ryebrye

12/3/23 11:26am

He's not wrong

Born2Fish

12/3/23 10:55am

Hard to disagree with that

CPAcoug87

12/3/23 10:55am

Well they are, but that’s impossible to do with unbalanced schedules

PHXSUNS31

12/3/23 10:57am

He’s right, but we already knew college football was broken..the fix is coming

PHXSUNS31

12/3/23 10:55am

FSU is playing Georgia…beat them and they can have an argument.

IGlowInTheDark

12/3/23 10:57am

Yeah, except Georgia is better than Alabama

krindorr

12/3/23 1:06pm

Because 24 is better than 27?

Florwood

12/3/23 1:44pm

I was under the impression we were ignoring H2H and on-field play and just going with what we think

krindorr

12/3/23 3:11pm

I love this. Great to see a blue blood reap and feel their own medicine used

Crowd Factor

12/3/23 10:57am

EXACTLY!

Idacoug

12/3/23 3:52pm

It's a travesty that an undefeated team is locked out from being able to compete

cougarfan84

12/3/23 10:57am

I don’t have a lot of sympathy. The ACC helped build the system, then their

Sircumference

12/3/23 11:27am

You don't have to have sympathy, but the statement is true.

sah22

12/3/23 11:33am

Well said

EDthoracotomy

12/3/23 11:29am

I love watching blue bloods become victim to their own monster.

EDthoracotomy

12/3/23 11:30am

This is the beginning of the end of the ACC

runningryan

12/3/23 11:36am

Let the scramble begin

EDthoracotomy

12/3/23 11:42am

I feel the same way about FSU as I do about WSU and OSU getting screwed by the

Emmett Fitz-Hume

12/3/23 11:37am

P5 just went to P2. Welcome to the outsiders club

davidmj10

12/3/23 11:42am

Also I agree with what he said.

davidmj10

12/3/23 11:46am

These people fed the monster. Can't complain when it eats 'em.

KCFan85

12/3/23 11:52am

They have every right to be very, very upset. And they know a bit now what

Mitty

12/3/23 12:09pm

Cry me a river. None of these complaints by blue blood schools engender any sympathy at all. They created this

YIsForBrigham

12/3/23 12:14pm

I’m just frustrated it isn’t the SEC on the outside looking in.

davidmj10

12/3/23 12:15pm

Yeah could have gone with FSU over Bama But the ACC did oppose the 12 team CFP

wildwilderness

12/3/23 12:18pm

I didn’t know that. So it is just karma for them.

davidmj10

12/3/23 12:22pm

I actually agree with much of that. Problem is there are four spots.

All-American

12/3/23 12:40pm

They have spent decades trying to keep teams out, now they know how it feels.

slatecoug

12/3/23 12:50pm

Boo hoo

Turd Ferguson

12/3/23 12:50pm

Cry me a river…you reap what you sow.

AlternateShot

12/3/23 1:25pm

He’s right

zerome4sooners

12/3/23 1:32pm

Next year’s playoff fixes all that.

canofpicante

12/3/23 2:17pm

My unpopular opinion

Happy As Larry

12/3/23 2:25pm

Unforgivable is a bit over the top. An acknowledgment of the difficulty

BYU '80

12/3/23 2:33pm

an undefeated team left out is very questionable.

Count Cougar

12/3/23 2:35pm

RE: Statement from FSU AD

Ikuna

12/3/23 2:49pm

Well argued. As a spectator, I'd still rather watch the 4 that made the playoff.

Forzaitalia

12/3/23 3:02pm

Playoff of 2 SEC teams and 2 B1G teams.

ParentingNotForSissy

12/3/23 3:47pm

Boo hoo. You made your own bed. Lie in it.

Idacoug

12/3/23 3:50pm

FSU helped build the current stupid system, and now they are victims of it.

Junior Deputy

12/3/23 5:17pm

Where were they during the BCS years?

Robert Baratheon

12/3/23 8:11pm

Doesnt persuade me. Everyone in the playoff beat a playoff worthy team. FSU

cougsareforreal

12/4/23 6:36am

FSU played two ranked teams, same as Michigan

krindorr

12/4/23 6:49am

You’re right, I spaced on LSU. Every team in the playoff has a win

cougsareforreal

12/4/23 7:06am

This is a true statement even years ago.

First-n-10

12/4/23 8:44am

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