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Utesaretheworst
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Was the interception a bad call by the refs? Or was it simply a problem with
SouthernBlueBlood
9/6/23 4:36am
Yes
MormonThug
9/6/23 4:37am
Can’t pick both in my question
SouthernBlueBlood
9/6/23 4:46am
If one or more part of an "or" question is true, "yes" if a valid answer
ryebrye
9/6/23 4:49am
Certainly can pick yes. The refs made a bad call on the field and because of
A Drew Aitch
9/6/23 4:50am
in era of replay, not a bad call if the ref did not clearly see it hit ground
fulano
9/6/23 7:24am
The ball hit the ground. The ref missed the call. Replay doesn’t negate that it
A Drew Aitch
9/6/23 7:57am
In a world without replay, that call is a missed call.
Tricky
9/6/23 9:57am
Well he didn’t catch it so yes it was a bad call.
Metallicat
9/6/23 4:46am
The position that you need a correct camera angle to overturn
SinkingQuffa
9/6/23 5:08am
I think the problem was that you couldn’t tell if his hand was under the ball
Skeptical Optimist
9/6/23 5:20am
I think there was pretty clear evidence on film he gathered it.
SinkingQuffa
9/6/23 5:23am
I think you’re wrong.
DirtyWater
9/6/23 5:58am
It was an obvious bad call. When you slow down the game &
SinkingQuffa
9/6/23 6:10am
The fact that we are still here disputing it means that it was not indisputable
astroman
9/6/23 6:28am
So the cameras don't matter then? Just our opinions?
SinkingQuffa
9/6/23 6:31am
No, the cameras are all that matters when trying to overturn
astroman
9/6/23 6:45am
Nice edit to your post there. Should "we" replay that, or just I?
SinkingQuffa
9/6/23 6:52am
The camera quality of the interception was garbage. If the camera quality is..
greatbam
9/6/23 7:09am
I think his argument is that it shouldn't require irrefutable evidence
krindorr
9/6/23 8:19am
Disagree - video review shouldn't be a judgement call. It should be black and
Skeptical Optimist
9/6/23 9:23am
Black & White by WHAT clear evidence? The direct view of ground & ball only?
SinkingQuffa
9/6/23 9:42am
Yes. If you can't tell if his hand was under it and it only bounced off his hand
Skeptical Optimist
9/6/23 9:45am
In that replay you COULD tell. In both real time & slo-mo.
SinkingQuffa
9/6/23 9:47am
You couldn't, because if you could the call would have been overturned.
Skeptical Optimist
9/6/23 10:30am
By their very restricted criteron of direct sight — ball & ground — you
SinkingQuffa
9/6/23 10:39am
Great. We agree. You couldn't tell and there was no indisputable video evidence.
Skeptical Optimist
9/6/23 10:51am
Then you should have no problem proving it. Show me.
Utesaretheworst
9/6/23 6:35am
I think rewriting the review rule to say “you only need to be pretty sure even
Skeptical Optimist
9/6/23 6:05am
You used quotation marks there — like refs use replay evidence.
SinkingQuffa
9/6/23 6:12am
RE: You used quotation marks there — like refs use replay evidence.
Skeptical Optimist
9/6/23 7:12am
I actually think that is much better since the call on the field is even less
boctabulous
9/6/23 7:17am
You need incontrovertible evidence to overturn a call, not just plenty of
Littlerich
9/6/23 5:50am
There was incontrovertible evidence enough on that one to plainly see
SinkingQuffa
9/6/23 6:24am
Show me where you "see" this evidence on the cameras they had that he didn't
ordinary tri guy
9/6/23 6:32am
Showing you what is obvious would be a waste of my & your time.
SinkingQuffa
9/6/23 8:04am
Interesting... Do you have a link to the video the replay officials had to determine if it was a correct call or not?
Rhino84
9/6/23 8:27am
It is no assumption that you ignore the video replay rules that disallow...
Les IsMore
9/6/23 9:53am
From the posts, it seems obvious to me that it is not obvious to all.
dratax
9/6/23 10:26am
Ok, don't go watch it for yourself then.
SinkingQuffa
9/6/23 10:30am
I did watch it. I have an opinion based on what I saw
dratax
9/6/23 12:12pm
That has never and should never be the standard. None of us should ever want a
Corn Pop
9/6/23 6:32am
IMO the refs shouldn't even be looking at the replays. It should be someone
boctabulous
9/6/23 7:19am
It is. There's a separate guy in the booth.
Corn Pop
9/6/23 7:34am
IMO when looking at instant replay they should act as if there was never a call
boctabulous
9/6/23 7:14am
That isn’t the point of instant replay or video review. The reply officials are
Littlerich
9/6/23 7:46am
I agree with you. I think it should be changed. The call on the field was
boctabulous
9/6/23 9:47am
But 90% don't agree that the call was wrong. Far less than 90%
Les IsMore
9/6/23 10:30am
I think they should change the way replay is used. Look at the replay as if
boctabulous
9/6/23 10:35am
The rules say "indisputable"
akbarishiwatsu
9/6/23 10:18am
The SHSU coach in post game said the "Conference" told the head ref it was time to move on...
TheLoneCougar
9/6/23 5:24am
I suspect "move on" meant there wasn't no angle that showed the ball hitting the ground so there's no sense in reviewing
Conan
9/6/23 6:25am
I would guess that, but just a weird way to talk about it.
TheLoneCougar
9/6/23 9:07am
Might have been referring to him arguing with the refs for several minutes after
Corn Pop
9/6/23 6:40am
That isn't how the coach described it, but could be.
TheLoneCougar
9/6/23 9:08am
It was just a call. No big deal. Happens all the time on bang bang plays.
ImuaKahuku
9/6/23 5:31am
Probably a bad call on the field, but given the call and lack of camera angles
byuinva
9/6/23 6:22am
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BYUMizzou
9/6/23 6:37am
The refs got it right because it benefitted BYU.
Utesaretheworst
9/6/23 6:39am
If it looks a certain way in real time and there isn't irrefutable evidence
Corn Pop
9/6/23 6:55am
Robinson was interviewed after the game. After listening to him... 0% chance he caught that ball.
HarlemCoug
9/6/23 7:48am
In AFR they mentioned how they interviewed him and asked "did you get away one"
greatbam
9/6/23 9:06am
He didn’t catch it from what it looks like.
davidmj10
9/6/23 7:47am
I'm pretty sure it was the wrong call on the field
BYU Fan
9/6/23 8:44am
Do we feel this way about Bradley's fumble against Utah? Was that also 'the right call'?
krindorr
9/6/23 9:45am
Yes, the Bradley fumble was the right call on replay. The picture with his knee
Skeptical Optimist
9/6/23 9:57am
I think the Bradley call could have been overturned but it was close
BYU Fan
9/6/23 11:20am
Depends on if you define an incorrect call as being bad.
Jarhead
9/6/23 9:41am
i wasn't at the game but the opposing coach seemed to be gesturing
lukeskywalker
9/6/23 10:15am
The review rules don't allow use of cameras...
Les IsMore
9/7/23 1:10am
ref should be allowed to use his best judgment to make the right call
lukeskywalker
9/7/23 9:35am
That’s what they do. Overturning a call is another matter.
Jarhead
9/7/23 10:38am
This would be a bad precedent... Stadium video producers would work to show all the missed calls which would benefit
Rhino84
9/7/23 11:17am
They already do that - just to give coaches a better idea which calls to challenge or not
krindorr
9/7/23 11:20am
We shouldn't have to rely on replay to get correct calls.
ochobeeguy
9/6/23 10:45am
But bad/wrong calls are part of the game — that replay shouldn't be toothless
SinkingQuffa
9/7/23 1:24am
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