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Nov 15, 2020
10:38:01am

kiyoshige All-American

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kiyoshige

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Let me save you from a total collapse on 11/24 - we won't be ranked top 10

kiyoshige

11/15/20 9:46am

AP and Coaches poll has zero correlation with the CFP Poll.

SlantRoute

11/15/20 9:47am

Zero correlation? How much are willing to put on that forecast?

DrBYU

11/15/20 9:54am

Perhaps i chose wrong words to use.

SlantRoute

11/15/20 9:57am

I wasn't going to go that far, but...

kiyoshige

11/15/20 9:56am

We could be 9-10 but that’ll be the best case.

Turnpike Lane

11/15/20 9:48am

Oregon has better wins? Winless Stanford and Wazzu?

BYU '80

11/15/20 9:49am

who are our better wins?

kiyoshige

11/15/20 9:55am

A blowout at Boise

ochobeeguy

11/15/20 9:56am

But Boise didn’t have their starting QB

Charles Darwin

11/15/20 10:01am

Doesn’t matter as long as Bsu keeps winning

BYU '80

11/15/20 10:02am

Sorry for not being more clear in my post..Stanford qb was out at Oregon

Charles Darwin

11/15/20 10:06am

So how does that make Stanford better than Boise?

ochobeeguy

11/15/20 10:10am

I think he's pointing to the idiocy of that statement because people don't apply

cougarfan84

11/15/20 10:12am

Signed Notre Dame

Avery

11/15/20 10:03am

Houston on the road, perhaps any number of teams. Stanford hasn’t won a game and look pretty bad

BYU '80

11/15/20 9:57am

houston is ranked below both Stanford and Wash St in every ranking out there

BlueFrog

11/15/20 9:59am

Based on what? That shows how horrible ranking systems are

BYU '80

11/15/20 10:01am

well rankings are what we are talking about. because you don't like it doesn't mean it isn't the way it is

BlueFrog

11/15/20 10:02am

Ok then explain how a winless team is ranked ahead of UH? Stanford lost to Colorado

BYU '80

11/15/20 10:04am

houston has lost 3 games. stanford only 1. is this the first time you have ever looked at rankings?

BlueFrog

11/15/20 10:06am

Stanford has lost two. And still haven’t won. So I would ask you that question

BYU '80

11/15/20 10:07am

Houston hasn't beaten anyone with a pulse. I'm not shocked that some winless P5's are ranked ahead of them

BlueFrog

11/15/20 10:10am

Stanford doesn’t have a pulse

puntersarepeople

11/15/20 10:12am

So not beating anyone with or without a pulse is somehow better I suppose?

BYU '80

11/15/20 10:14am

hey i'm not the one doing the rankings. just cuz you think Houston should be ranked above Wazzu doesn't mean that

BlueFrog

11/15/20 10:24am

This year the rankings are going to be pretty poor

puntersarepeople

11/15/20 10:25am

for sure. and with some teams with 8 wins and others with 2 right by each other in the rankings.

BlueFrog

11/15/20 10:30am

Original post yes. Subsequent ones? No

BYU '80

11/15/20 10:32am

Technically we aren't "dropping". We will just start out around #12 IMO.

kiyoshige

11/15/20 10:44am

Since we have no idea what they are thinking, why don't we just wait for them to

DJROSS

11/15/20 9:49am

You should pay closer attention to what happened when Nebraska tried to replace

Charles Darwin

11/15/20 9:49am

I know Nebraska. I've been to Nebraska. We are no Nebraska.

kiyoshige

11/15/20 10:10am

It seems you are not familiar with this story. BYU being Nebraska or not has

Charles Darwin

11/15/20 10:17am

always exceptions

kiyoshige

11/15/20 10:32am

You hope

Charles Darwin

11/15/20 10:33am

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byubyu

11/15/20 9:50am

agreed. i'll even take top 15!

kiyoshige

11/15/20 10:05am

Cinn playing BYU is like going for 2 after a TD in a close game

run26

11/15/20 9:52am

That game announced for the 28th would be the OPPOSITE of a CB collapse!

kiyoshige

11/15/20 10:07am

Total collapse? Who are you even talking to?

Benfica1

11/15/20 9:54am

Those who think we will be top 10 in the CFP ranking. Be happy with top 15.

kiyoshige

11/15/20 9:56am

Depends how much wins count versus not playing

BYU '80

11/15/20 10:00am

Miami no will lose again. Indiana could lose three games. Oregon has beaten no one

BYU '80

11/15/20 9:58am

Miami?

bluecougar1985

11/15/20 9:56am

Blowout win over FSU, beat #18 Louisville, 5 other P5 wins, only loss to Clemson

kiyoshige

11/15/20 10:00am

Louisville and FSU are horrible teams and they have lackluster wins over very mediocre competition

BYU '80

11/15/20 10:01am

Beat a 2-5 Louisville and a two win FSU. OK.

Benfica1

11/15/20 11:48am

had 13 players out for covid

BlueFrog

11/15/20 10:01am

That makes sense. I don’t follow it that closely and

bluecougar1985

11/15/20 10:04am

they didn't play well yesterday. not playing up to their ranking lately

BlueFrog

11/15/20 10:08am

Miami has looked bad in several games

BYU '80

11/15/20 10:04am

you haven't watched them in any other game

BlueFrog

11/15/20 10:06am

I watched them eke out wins versus bad to mediocre Virginia and NC State

BYU '80

11/15/20 10:11am

no you didn't

BlueFrog

11/15/20 10:16am

Yes i did. Youre on a roll. I watch the teams around byu

BYU '80

11/15/20 10:17am

looking at box scores or espn highlights isn't watching them

BlueFrog

11/15/20 10:21am

I’ve watched the games. Deal with it. Are you arguing they looked great in those games?

BYU '80

11/15/20 10:32am

they haven't looked good. but i am a miami fan and know how hard it is to get all their games on TV. Where do you live &

BlueFrog

11/15/20 10:36am

So they have had games on ABC, ESPN, and ACCN

puntersarepeople

11/15/20 10:41am

not all subscribers get the acc network

BlueFrog

11/15/20 10:51am

True. But you said it was near impossible

puntersarepeople

11/15/20 11:01am

ACC Network comes with most DirecTV packages. Not that hard to get.

DescendentCoug

11/15/20 2:28pm

He's trolling you. He gets his jollies when you respond.

Benfica1

11/15/20 12:46pm

If OSU beats OU I won’t post in college football categories for

Charles Darwin

11/15/20 9:58am

No, I am not. Anything can happen in college football. How about a golf hat?

kiyoshige

11/15/20 10:01am

What is not going to happen is OU losing to OSU

Charles Darwin

11/15/20 10:02am

I don’t understand people getting so aggressive on a sports opinion site.

bluecougar1985

11/15/20 10:06am

Makes the game more fun

Charles Darwin

11/15/20 10:08am

The hat offer seems much more friendly than “leave if you’re wrong”

bluecougar1985

11/15/20 10:38am

The hat has actual value and seems like it would be against the rules

Charles Darwin

11/15/20 10:40am

OK, sorry I was talking about a hat I already own that has no value.

kiyoshige

11/15/20 10:49am

RE: OK, sorry I was talking about a hat I already own that has no value.

Charles Darwin

11/22/20 8:46am

Yes they got toasted. Good call. Thankful I can still post.

kiyoshige

11/22/20 7:08pm

Some posters are so offensive A TON would be gained if they (I) didn't post!

kiyoshige

11/15/20 10:09am

Based on what? Osus improved defense, good qb and great running back?

BYU '80

11/15/20 10:06am

Oklahoma has improved after turnovers cost them early games. They don’t deserve

Charles Darwin

11/15/20 10:13am

Maybe so but there are plenty of good counter arguments

BYU '80

11/15/20 10:15am

I love how people can’t get into their heads that its conference only schedule

Cougz19

11/15/20 10:09am

What if it was a difference between said conference getting into CFP or not?

kiyoshige

11/15/20 10:11am

RE: What if it was a difference between said conference getting into CFP or not?

Cougz19

11/15/20 1:47pm

Indiana might get killed. Wisconsin and OSU very well may lose

puntersarepeople

11/15/20 10:16am

Let me save you from telling yourself on the 24th that you are wrong.

WJCougar

11/15/20 10:23am

I love win-win scenarios.

kiyoshige

11/15/20 10:30am

Its just sad you have no faith that it can actually happen.

WJCougar

11/15/20 10:34am

Faith vs. Reality is a perfect Sabbath discussion!

kiyoshige

11/15/20 10:38am

Except you don't know if your prediction is reality or not.

WJCougar

11/15/20 10:43am

I was more speaking on how good our football team is NOW.

kiyoshige

11/15/20 10:46am

I don’t know if you’ll be right but I think it would be foolish to overlook this

ldssdl

11/15/20 10:32am

Army doesn't help IMO. Liberty/Marshall help slightly.

kiyoshige

11/15/20 10:36am

I hope you’re right. No P5 team is allowed to play BYU OOC, so the best we can

ldssdl

11/15/20 10:46am

Indiana, Wisconsin, Oregon and USC will pass BYU eventually so long as they do

Forzaitalia

11/15/20 11:40am

I would like BYU's chances in games against all of those teams

lbmango

11/15/20 11:54am

RE: Indiana, Wisconsin, Oregon and USC will pass BYU eventually so long as they

cougarxfan

11/15/20 12:13pm

BYU will be anywhere from 5-8. My opinion.

Mathew

11/15/20 12:43pm

No way we get into top 8. 9 is the ceiling IMO.

kiyoshige

11/15/20 1:43pm

9 may be YOUR ceiling but 11 is THE floor. No team has seen a difference between

Six Foot Seven

11/17/20 5:19am

Is this a serious post? Hahaha

BYUvermont

11/15/20 12:47pm

Kiyoshige is a realist. Nothing wrong with telling it like it is...

reezonablecoug

11/15/20 10:32pm

I still wear the blue goggles, but I was close at 12 and right at top 15.

kiyoshige

11/24/20 5:11pm

You were spot on, no matter how much it hurts.

reezonablecoug

11/25/20 12:16am

Good call. BYU is no longer going to get the good will vote for playing early.

Forzaitalia

11/24/20 6:07pm

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