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Nov 21, 2024
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oxcoug
Intervention Needed
LOL, yeah let's pretend this doesn't apply to Max and JoBeck and other BYU QBs
who had their schedules lined with New Mexico, Rice, UNLV and Air Force.
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So in 14 starts JR has faced 12 P4 opponents - more than TfD did in his entire
oxcoug
Nov 21, 3:39pm
I hate that we are now using P4 to compare who played tougher opponents. In the 80s and early 90s
kimdaddy35
Nov 21, 3:44pm
As an "old-timer" who loves the 80's & 90's of BYU football oxcoug is
gopman
Nov 21, 4:24pm
True, but if TFD was QB now (his younger self) we'd have won last week and gone
jtm0001
Nov 21, 3:44pm
Yeah I don't think so. If the same TY Detmer when he was college age played for BYU this year, I think given the change
DJROSS
Nov 21, 3:53pm
Ty Threw 28 interceptions his Heisman year. It's so hard to compare across eras, though. I'm not sure what the point is.
jpesk2
Nov 21, 3:55pm
Completely different offenses. Ty Detmer also threw for 432 yards per game his Heisman winning season.
kimdaddy35
Nov 21, 3:55pm
Ty threw 65 career INT (28 in the Heisman Year)
arcawley
Nov 21, 3:59pm
How many completions? TD passes? It was a totally different game and offense. He
jtm0001
Nov 21, 4:04pm
Yes he an I are the same age. The game today isn't what it was when he played. Is like asking Carl Lewis to compete
DJROSS
Nov 21, 4:48pm
Impossible to know. If Ty had grown up now and still had his processing speed, he'd be fine today.
jpesk2
Nov 21, 5:23pm
Fair point. Detmer (to his credit) & other BYU greats (Nielsen, Wilson, McMahon
gopman
Nov 21, 5:40pm
The thing that set Ty apart was just his processing speed, and his knowledge of the game.
jpesk2
Nov 21, 5:44pm
That is what I'm comparing. Ty in his 1989 prime having to play today's game against today's players
DJROSS
Nov 21, 5:47pm
No QB from 1989 would have success if you dropped them in the game today.
jpesk2
Nov 21, 6:41pm
100% agree with this
DJROSS
Nov 21, 6:53pm
This is actually a really good point
Incentivize
Nov 21, 3:47pm
I mean I thought it was illustrated perfectly in Zach Wilson's 2020 year in which he set fire to our old records while
kimdaddy35
Nov 21, 3:54pm
Lol. Ya let's compare something now with something that happened in college
byubyu
Nov 21, 3:59pm
LOL, yeah let's pretend this doesn't apply to Max and JoBeck and other BYU QBs
oxcoug
Nov 21, 4:14pm
ORRRR.. let's have a look at 2020: Troy. La Tech. San Antonio. Western Kentucky.
oxcoug
Nov 21, 4:17pm
I think most fans realize the schedule has improved. Perhaps a 140 rating before would be a 150 rating today. Maybe
kimdaddy35
Nov 21, 4:23pm
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