Exactly, solid offense extremely effective defense = elite team

Oct 18, 2024
10:44:32am

theonick 3rd String

Neither work without the the other but again elite offense plus pretty good to good defense does not equal elite. There defense is more important.

Henderson defense wins championships etc etc.

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Jay Hill isn't messing around.

Abe Froman

Oct 17, 2:08pm

Sheesh, even more than punts?

SV72 Sale

Oct 17, 2:11pm

Every time there's been talk about this not being sustainable and every week

BackPacker

Oct 17, 2:13pm

No, but I think it will be more about how teams game plan against us

whoneedscorners?

Oct 17, 2:16pm

Why “No?” The available evidence suggests otherwise.

xgbs

Oct 17, 5:19pm

Did you even read what I wrote at all?

whoneedscorners?

Oct 17, 7:23pm

Has there ever been a team in history at any level that had the opponent turn

boctabulous

Oct 17, 7:43pm

As if anyone could ever know that Napolian

NC CougarBear

Oct 17, 7:56pm

Do you have an opinion/guess though? I dont think its ever happened. If it has

boctabulous

9:20am

Especially considering that BYU has had a pretty high strength of schedule.

crack

Oct 17, 2:17pm

Idk Utah and KW seemed to sustain it for quite a few years

Polecat

Oct 17, 2:17pm

But not every game for any season.

boctabulous

Oct 17, 7:40pm

Well. They did for one season at least. Back in the MWC tho.

Polecat

Oct 17, 7:42pm

I think you are wrong.

boctabulous

Oct 17, 7:44pm

I don't know but a defensive foundation is far more sustainable than offensive

bythenumbers

Oct 17, 2:18pm

based on what?

Genghis Spreads

Oct 17, 3:11pm

Every football expert’s opinion, like ever . . .

theonick

Oct 17, 6:45pm

“Offense wins games but defense wins championships.”

Genghis Spreads

Oct 17, 10:17pm

How about this one - defense travels

theonick

6:38am

The greatest show on turf is probably the team that comes to mind.

boctabulous

9:22am

How’d that go against a very young Tom Brady

theonick

10:05am

Same way it went for most teams against the best team in history.

boctabulous

10:06am

Exactly, solid offense extremely effective defense = elite team

theonick

10:44am

Even if Washington played us and beat us, we were still a championship caliber

Genghis Spreads

10:03am

Theres going to be at least one game where the defense struggles

MaximusMeridius

Oct 17, 4:01pm

There already was one: Baylor.

xgbs

Oct 17, 5:20pm

"struggling" is forcing 2 turnovers, 2.3 yards per carry, and 56% pass comp?

MaximusMeridius

Oct 17, 6:39pm

If the opponent runs an extremely conservative primarily running offense they

Reasonable1

Oct 17, 4:01pm

Well that’s because we have a weak schedule.

Cougarclaw

Oct 17, 2:17pm

RE: Jay Hill isn't messing around.

CougfromtheSouth

Oct 17, 2:17pm

If Oklahoma St installs new QB, it could get beautifully ugly for OSU on Friday.

Blue Ghost

Oct 17, 2:18pm

Or, just a massive run fest and no turnovers to get—which means offense will

Crowd Factor

Oct 17, 2:27pm

Oh? Fumbles aren’t a thing in your reality? Also, 1 dimensional offenses aren’t

Saxa

Oct 17, 2:30pm

Interestingly there were 3x as many fumbles than interceptions in NCAA last year

ochobeeguy

10:40am

OSU is second to last in Run Offense in the Big-12. And Colorado doesn't try.

Blue Ghost

Oct 17, 2:31pm

That’s probably because OSU has been holding back their full run playbook

Crowd Factor

Oct 17, 2:34pm

I'll take it. Ok St defense sucks.

YOHONOMOTO

Oct 17, 10:08pm

Somebody better be getting the Brinks truck ready for when the season ends.

WillsPitStop

Oct 17, 2:23pm

RE: Somebody better be getting the Brinks truck ready for when the season ends.

m0resn0w

Oct 17, 2:26pm

That is amazing.

Hoosier Cougar

Oct 17, 2:24pm

I don't think that's right...

Fightgar

Oct 17, 2:47pm

30 people have viewed this and not one response??

Fightgar

Oct 17, 2:53pm

4 people have viewed this and not one response??

Fightgar

Oct 17, 2:54pm

I got you. Took time to get my slide rule out of my cargo shorts.

Section31 Coug

Oct 17, 2:56pm

No - that's not what most likely means

Section31 Coug

Oct 17, 2:54pm

Although I disagree, I thank you for your response.

Fightgar

Oct 17, 2:55pm

After thinking it over, there's more truth to your point than I realized

Section31 Coug

Oct 17, 3:23pm

I was sure that being drug through the front door would be an outcome.

kbufcoug

Oct 17, 3:59pm

Sounds like someone got an ‘A’ in stats 121!!

7FootRussian

Oct 17, 8:51pm

Consider rolling two dice

The Dark Knight

Oct 17, 3:00pm

Put another way

The Dark Knight

Oct 17, 3:06pm

For some reason, I just read it as "over 50% of the time, it ends in a turnover"

Fightgar

Oct 17, 3:19pm

Both are true: most likely outcome is a turnover. Most likely something other th

Coug-Ida

Oct 17, 4:17pm

It's right. 35% T.O., 33% punt, 14% TD, 14% FG, 4% end of half/game

Brandoblueblood

Oct 17, 4:19pm

You are right. But it depends on how you frame the statement.

Blewis15

Oct 17, 6:53pm

Here's the opponent drive information: Opponents have had 71 drives (not counting two 1-play drives at the end of

Spiff

Oct 17, 8:57pm

Great post. Thanks. That is incredible and beautiful to look at.

boctabulous

9:23am

You should start a new thread with this post. It's really interesting data - I think more would like to see it.

HarlemCoug

9:30am

If there are more than 2 outcomes, most likely can be less than 50%.

ochobeeguy

10:43am

This is a killer stat. Great job.

DazeofBlue

Oct 17, 2:58pm

That's insane. Also, most likely unsustainable

boctabulous

Oct 17, 3:37pm

And long towards morning Wrubell breaks out a meaningful stat. 👏👏👏

KYU

Oct 17, 4:19pm

Looking at it from an objective standpoint, it could mean that we are

chazen

Oct 17, 5:37pm

Yeah, I wonder if a lot of our turnover on downs is in fourth quarter

viper

Oct 17, 6:19pm

Of the 12 4th Down stops, 3 were in the 1st quarter, 1 in the 2nd, 4 in the 3rd, & 4 in the 4th.

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