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Sep 25, 2024
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shoganai

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There’s nothing I respect more than a player quitting on his team mid season

Indy Coug Loquacious Lummox

6:31am

The only team that will accept him is some team

Archaea

6:34am

It depends on how good he is; BYU has taken players who quit mid-season and lost players who quit midseason

krindorr

8:51am

Valid points

Archaea

10:14am

It's one thing for a salesman to get his company and not expect much

bald man

6:35am

CFB is a team sport run by people who are not good at being on a team. Like life

bruincoug

6:35am

Daaaang So-crates! That was DEEP!

LeftOfNormal

6:53am

Yes, but also shame on the school for making promises and then voiding on them

Mostlyaccurate

6:38am

Maybe. We don’t know the other side of the story

Iman23

6:39am

He shouldn’t have demanded more mid season.

Archaea

6:47am

We don't know if that's true. The local reports have a strong incentive to lie

Mostlyaccurate

6:54am

Inside reports are confirming that.

Archaea

6:55am

Its what makes the most sense. His value increased mid year and now he is trying

johnnybyu

7:00am

True. And people can be easily fooled into thinking the real victim in these

Polecat

11:39am

If we're assuming it's entirely NIL, how/ when do you propose he "demand" more?

wickedgame71

6:57am

He already got his degree.

Archaea

6:58am

But what if he was really promised more money that he hasn’t received? At what

Polecat

11:52am

Is that what happened or is he getting a better offer to go somewhere else

johnnybyu

6:53am

Why would his offer be contingent on quitting midseason?

Mostlyaccurate

6:54am

Because 4 games this can be a redshirt year and he gets the year back to make

johnnybyu

6:55am

Also, we should. It is irresponsible/bad stewardship to not make as much money

RoboKayne

8:03am

Shame on the school? What's the school's official position?

KCFan85

11:54am

Get it in writing.

snowbird

6:46am

Coaches have been doing this for years. Just less obviously.

shoganai

6:54am

I think we are wanting to have our cake and eat it too.

Courtimedes

7:01am

Oh, 100% fans are hypocrites about this.

shoganai

7:11am

It’s so true. For a population who believes in a free market, many sure want

Polecat

11:26am

I'm toying with the idea that maybe the whole market should be eliminated.

RoboKayne

12:03pm

True. A situation like this is simply two entities fighting over dollars

Polecat

12:18pm

This is true, will happen with players more however since they only have 4 years

johnnybyu

7:02am

This isn't a case of quiet quitting. It's just plain quitting.

bythenumbers

7:10am

There's a very easy solution to this, but the fans keep loudly complaining that

shoganai

7:20am

How? Head hunters lure employees away all the time to other employers

DiamondMo

7:23am

Sure, but you would have contractual protections.

Courtimedes

7:25am

Contracts and collective bargaining.

shoganai

7:30am

Problem is values are still wild west. A star contributor vs non contributor

johnnybyu

7:39am

Yeah exactly. I think that's where it has to go.

bythenumbers

7:25am

Lawsuit allowing/ forcing schools to pay NIL directly will likely change that

NYC and Japan

7:39am

Mmk. But those coaches had actually done something worthy of a promotion. Look

Iman23

7:19am

If he isn't good then it shouldn't be a big deal that anybody cares about.

shoganai

7:21am

To clarify- are you saying that if this was a star player

Courtimedes

7:21am

What did I miss? Can I get a short summary?

Knight-who-says-ni

7:42am

Had the same question. I think this:

RoboKayne

7:46am

Yes, that's it

volleyjiver

7:47am

Thx. CBers can do a lousy job of referencing the subject they're posting about.

Forzaitalia

7:49am

This is what NIL was destined to lead to in a lot of cases. I think it will eventually unbalance and ruin CFB

Knight-who-says-ni

7:58am

Look a few posts down about UNLVs QB quitting after 4 games so

volleyjiver

7:46am

The hate the kid is getting is not fair. NIL needs restructuring.

CopaCoug

9:26am

He's only gotten $3,000?!

Mostlyaccurate

9:36am

More and more is coming out

CopaCoug

9:56am

And here is a quote from his dad

CopaCoug

9:59am

Sports agencies are rubbing their hands together

bythenumbers

10:08am

I think this is definitely a case where people should wait for the facts

bythenumbers

9:47am

Is the player getting paid or is the payer getting played? Time will reveal.

RoboKayne

11:12am

A lot of times changes to a system result in rediscovering well-known ideas from

RoboKayne

11:11am

Dallin Holker quitting his team after 3 games was really bad.

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