True, but if TFD was QB now (his younger self) we'd have won last week and gone

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Nov 21, 2024
3:44:51pm

jtm0001 All-American

True, but if TFD was QB now (his younger self) we'd have won last week and gone

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So in 14 starts JR has faced 12 P4 opponents - more than TfD did in his entire

oxcoug

Nov 21, 3:39pm

I hate that we are now using P4 to compare who played tougher opponents. In the 80s and early 90s

kimdaddy35

Nov 21, 3:44pm

As an "old-timer" who loves the 80's & 90's of BYU football oxcoug is

gopman

Nov 21, 4:24pm

True, but if TFD was QB now (his younger self) we'd have won last week and gone

jtm0001

Nov 21, 3:44pm

Yeah I don't think so. If the same TY Detmer when he was college age played for BYU this year, I think given the change

DJROSS

Nov 21, 3:53pm

Ty Threw 28 interceptions his Heisman year. It's so hard to compare across eras, though. I'm not sure what the point is.

jpesk2

Nov 21, 3:55pm

Completely different offenses. Ty Detmer also threw for 432 yards per game his Heisman winning season.

kimdaddy35

Nov 21, 3:55pm

Ty threw 65 career INT (28 in the Heisman Year)

arcawley

Nov 21, 3:59pm

How many completions? TD passes? It was a totally different game and offense. He

jtm0001

Nov 21, 4:04pm

Yes he an I are the same age. The game today isn't what it was when he played. Is like asking Carl Lewis to compete

DJROSS

Nov 21, 4:48pm

Impossible to know. If Ty had grown up now and still had his processing speed, he'd be fine today.

jpesk2

Nov 21, 5:23pm

Fair point. Detmer (to his credit) & other BYU greats (Nielsen, Wilson, McMahon

gopman

Nov 21, 5:40pm

The thing that set Ty apart was just his processing speed, and his knowledge of the game.

jpesk2

Nov 21, 5:44pm

That is what I'm comparing. Ty in his 1989 prime having to play today's game against today's players

DJROSS

Nov 21, 5:47pm

No QB from 1989 would have success if you dropped them in the game today.

jpesk2

Nov 21, 6:41pm

100% agree with this

DJROSS

Nov 21, 6:53pm

This is actually a really good point

Incentivize

Nov 21, 3:47pm

I mean I thought it was illustrated perfectly in Zach Wilson's 2020 year in which he set fire to our old records while

kimdaddy35

Nov 21, 3:54pm

Lol. Ya let's compare something now with something that happened in college

byubyu

Nov 21, 3:59pm

LOL, yeah let's pretend this doesn't apply to Max and JoBeck and other BYU QBs

oxcoug

Nov 21, 4:14pm

ORRRR.. let's have a look at 2020: Troy. La Tech. San Antonio. Western Kentucky.

oxcoug

Nov 21, 4:17pm

I think most fans realize the schedule has improved. Perhaps a 140 rating before would be a 150 rating today. Maybe

kimdaddy35

Nov 21, 4:23pm

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