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Jan 16, 2021
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Cougarbib
Intervention Needed
Freeze, Mahlzahn, and Harsin like they are a measuring stick he has not lived
up to. You are right. They are better. Bad measuring stick, however, because Aggies would not sniff any of them.
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USU on Maile situation
the_byu_flash
1/15/21 2:34pm
Reads like the U of U police department handled the investigation for USU
rivercitycoug
1/15/21 2:37pm
2 key words: 'expressly stated'.
John Doe
1/15/21 2:38pm
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JimmyZ
1/15/21 3:05pm
RE: USU on Maile situation
Little Mac
1/15/21 2:40pm
Oh brother. Just release what was said already.
stenso
1/15/21 2:42pm
If there was nothing wrong with what she said, she would have said it already
cougfan03
1/15/21 2:51pm
At least they would claim such... my bet is that it was taken as was meant
Saxa
1/15/21 4:05pm
My understanding is that no one recorded it. Which is strange in itself.
John Doe
1/15/21 7:03pm
So, USU investigated its self and everything’s fine. Got it.
Lifi
1/15/21 2:43pm
I think it was Ray Quinney & Nebeker that did the independent investigation.
neboutefan
1/15/21 2:48pm
Two separate law firms did investigations. 1 for USU trustees. 1 for state BOE.
Cougarbib
1/15/21 2:51pm
They used outside legal firms, as schools do in these situation.
Everyman
1/15/21 2:50pm
And the other state schools have their back.
John Doe
1/15/21 3:00pm
So intent matters now? That’s new.
RalphWiggam
1/15/21 2:44pm
Wonder when the report will be made public.
kansascougar
1/15/21 2:45pm
RE: Wonder when the report will be made public.
GeoAg
1/15/21 4:01pm
"Primary concern. . ." also is a problem
RenoCoug
1/15/21 2:46pm
If his religion or ethnicity were even discussed or mentioned its a problem.
kansascougar
1/15/21 2:49pm
Her husband is Hawaiian. I doubt she is biased towards Polynesians.
Cougarbib
1/15/21 5:46pm
You’re missing the point. Those topics are off limits. Period.
kansascougar
1/15/21 6:28pm
And many of the players don't say otherwise. Read the detailed report. She is
Cougarbib
1/15/21 8:55pm
So did I. You don’t know what racist is. Stop
kansascougar
1/15/21 9:15pm
Do you know them?
Charles Darwin
1/15/21 7:33pm
No. But I can read. Read every detail of the detailed report. I do not know any
Cougarbib
1/15/21 8:58pm
Where did you read her husband is Hawaiian?
Charles Darwin
1/15/21 9:09pm
In the details of the detailed report.
Cougarbib
1/16/21 9:38pm
She could be depending on what island. Lots of ill feelings towards one group
Blue for Life
1/15/21 7:49pm
But not generalized ill feelings toward all polys. BTW, I lived in Hawaii for
Cougarbib
1/15/21 9:06pm
Haha “She never explicitly said it was the PRIMARY reason he wasn’t hired”
califcougar
1/15/21 2:50pm
It wasn't. His lack of qualifications to be HC are why he was not hired. He may
Cougarbib
1/15/21 2:56pm
Agreed. But his religion and ethnicity should have never been brought up
kansascougar
1/15/21 3:02pm
I am betting that players brought it up as a reason he should be hired and
Cougarbib
1/15/21 5:00pm
You should stop betting. Too many unknowns.
kansascougar
1/15/21 6:29pm
Read the detailed report. Every detail.
Cougarbib
1/15/21 9:08pm
I did. Not racist. At all
kansascougar
1/15/21 9:16pm
No one on here is saying any different, but according to multiple players she
Blue for Life
1/15/21 7:50pm
Read every detail of the detailed report.
Cougarbib
1/15/21 9:09pm
We are all now dumber for what we just read! May God have mercy on our souls.
buckeyeod
1/15/21 2:52pm
Bad look Ray Quinney. As a lawyer I’m embarrassed by the wording.
kansascougar
1/15/21 2:53pm
As a lawyer, you should read the entire report before calling anyone out. And
Cougarbib
1/15/21 9:27pm
Edit...bad look Stoel as well
kansascougar
1/15/21 9:32pm
So the athletes were too dumb to understand what the school president meant?
DeekLyfter
1/15/21 2:53pm
Well she is resigning. Good riddance.
Genghis Spreads
1/15/21 2:55pm
Are U sure? Emphasis on U. U president just resigned to take another job.
Cougarbib
1/15/21 2:58pm
My bad. They look the same.
Genghis Spreads
1/15/21 6:38pm
I'm guessing she'll be surprised to learn she is resigning.
neboutefan
1/15/21 3:17pm
So they pay a law firm to do an independent investigation and then pay the law
Mountain Rat
1/15/21 2:57pm
2 words: rug. washed.
Bluforever
1/15/21 2:59pm
The whole thing stemmed from Maile’s 3 pillars of recruiting he submitted. It’s why Cockett even talked about it.
RdF3
1/15/21 2:59pm
Nice summary. They should have hired you to write the report. That makes sense.
buckeyeod
1/15/21 3:27pm
Irony. Maile had a racist recruiting strategy. Where is the outrage.
Cougarbib
1/15/21 5:02pm
Proof?
Bullrider
1/15/21 6:55pm
Read every detail of the report. It is in there.
Cougarbib
1/15/21 9:14pm
Stop. Seriously. Racist? Narrow strategy? Sure. Likely unsuccessful strategy?
kansascougar
1/15/21 7:11pm
Focusing on Polynesian, local, and LDS as 3 pillars of recruiting is not racist?
Cougarbib
1/15/21 9:13pm
Oh boy.....the focus wasn’t because he was racist. Geez. He thinks that’s who
kansascougar
1/15/21 9:18pm
Since we are all quibbling about words - you might want to read his words. They
Cougarbib
1/15/21 9:21pm
Do you really think a D-1 coach would do that? He’s not dumb. He knows he
kansascougar
1/15/21 9:26pm
Just going to give them preferential treatment. He wrote the words. You want to
Cougarbib
1/15/21 9:31pm
That’s not the argument. You used the word racist. Unfounded claim.
kansascougar
1/15/21 9:34pm
Preferential treatment based on race is racist.
Cougarbib
1/15/21 9:42pm
Member/Non-member has nothing to do with race. RM/Non-RMs has nothing to do
kansascougar
1/15/21 9:53pm
And yet you claim the undocumented claims of what she said were racist and
Cougarbib
1/15/21 10:05pm
I said racist? Nope. Said she never should have brought up his ethnicity or
kansascougar
1/15/21 10:18pm
The players brought it up. And it is speculation what she said in response. Yet
Cougarbib
1/16/21 2:39am
She says the players brought it up. Hartwell doesn’t recall if she brought it
kansascougar
1/16/21 9:00am
Not 1 player said they did not bring it up and common sense would tell you they
Cougarbib
1/16/21 12:27pm
Isn’t he the assistant head coach? Just like Ed Lamb at BYU
Charles Darwin
1/16/21 12:29pm
Yes. He has a token title like Ed Lamb. At least
Cougarbib
1/16/21 12:37pm
You have no idea what youre talking about if you think Lamb has a token title
Charles Darwin
1/16/21 12:41pm
Time will tell, but the moron beat Maile, Lamb, Grimes, & many other candidates
Cougarbib
1/16/21 3:59pm
Never said that coach was a moron.
Charles Darwin
1/16/21 4:17pm
Based on his record, he probably would have bounced back from a bad year in the
Cougarbib
1/16/21 9:28pm
I don’t recall listing any names at all. The program has fallen a lot on his
Charles Darwin
1/16/21 9:31pm
Freeze, Mahlzahn, and Harsin like they are a measuring stick he has not lived
Cougarbib
1/16/21 9:41pm
Those were the seasons prior to him getting the job. It’s been a great launching
Charles Darwin
1/16/21 9:43pm
I would hardly call that down the toilet. I am not going to judge him but Covid
Cougarbib
1/16/21 9:50pm
They went from consistent conference champs to middle of the pack to 4-7
Charles Darwin
1/16/21 9:54pm
Looks like he won more conference championships than any of the other 3.
Cougarbib
1/16/21 10:04pm
Nick Saban
Charles Darwin
1/16/21 10:08pm
Typo. Fixed.
Cougarbib
1/16/21 11:34pm
And notice. Lamb was not picked for USU HC either. Nor was Grimes.
Cougarbib
1/16/21 12:39pm
What does that have to do with anything? You are misrepresenting reality
Charles Darwin
1/16/21 12:42pm
You could argue it’s leadership and HR 101 not to talk about religion and
kansascougar
1/16/21 12:45pm
You misunderstood what all 95 of you expressly heard
BYU Grounds
1/15/21 3:10pm
Secondary concern makes it ok.
Lip Gallagher
1/15/21 3:12pm
This statement is simply to help protect USU from litigation.
TempeCoug
1/15/21 3:25pm
So in other words, she said she was concerned about his religion and culture but did so to promote a discussion?
NihonCougar
1/15/21 3:50pm
Keep making stuff up.
Cougarbib
1/15/21 5:03pm
RE: Keep making stuff up.
ParentingNotForSissy
1/15/21 6:27pm
It is in the detailed report. Read every detail.
Cougarbib
1/15/21 9:15pm
I’m just reading directly from the statement.
NihonCougar
1/15/21 9:16pm
USU to the players: Who you gonna believe?
Little Mac
1/15/21 5:23pm
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zerome4sooners
1/15/21 6:23pm
If he were in the lgbt community and comments were about that would it be
Coug Man in Florida
1/15/21 7:08pm
They got the MSM to help them say what they really meant to say.
Blue for Life
1/15/21 7:46pm
So, her intent wasn't conveyed in the words she actually said to the players.
cosmohio
1/15/21 8:11pm
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