That’s why that Swedish study is so nice

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Mar 31, 2025
4:33:57pm

Medute All-American

That’s why that Swedish study is so nice

Same country, same diets, same demographics, same clinical access, but different fluoride levels. 20% reduction is cavities in the fluoride group.

So yes, it has an effect. Is that effect worth all the effort. That’s the debate we should have. But we should be honest about the absolute effect.

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Medute

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AI is an incredible tool. I wanted to figure out the actual benefit of fluoride

Medute

Mar 31, 7:47am

Good post. That adds some perspective to the issue.

SageOwl

Mar 31, 7:52am

I’m not pro-one side and I don’t like partisan politics

Medute

Mar 31, 8:07am

I know nothing about the fluoride debate but my knee jerk to your post

5150man

Mar 31, 8:03am

Exactly, you always have to take that into account

Medute

Mar 31, 8:11am

It seems you are assuming that all water in the US has natural fluoride. Is that

BNcoug

Mar 31, 8:46am

No, I didn’t assume that at all and I’m not sure why you think that

Medute

Mar 31, 8:58am

20% decay reduction is a big deal — far more than one filling per lifetime.

d-coug

Mar 31, 8:16am

Andectodally:

d-coug

Mar 31, 8:22am

Anecdotal data is no data

Medute

Mar 31, 8:34am

A dentist treating hundreds of patients may be "anecdotal", but is less problem

NYC and Japan

Mar 31, 11:00am

I think it’s because of extra candy in Primary classes in UT

Johnny Vatos

Mar 31, 9:40am

Any dentists on here have any concerns about the alleged impact on IQ?

Oat'n'bow

Mar 31, 1:16pm

Yes the meta analysis is fairly flawed from what I’ve read

ATX

Mar 31, 1:53pm

Interesting. It would be nice to have a clearer picture of the potential

Oat'n'bow

Mar 31, 2:23pm

I thought it was pretty clear how I came to the conclusion. Sorry if not

Medute

Mar 31, 8:33am

CB is largely anti-gov. Fluoridation is an area that benefits those likely to

NYC and Japan

Mar 31, 9:12am

Would love to see us improve public education on brushing/care

Medute

Mar 31, 9:31am

I agree, education on dietary and bacterial influence would be huge.

ATX

Mar 31, 11:09am

Yep, but I don’t really care if people decide to not take care of their teeth

Medute

Mar 31, 11:36am

As far as societal impact the number 1 cause of children missing school is

ATX

Mar 31, 12:08pm

Then there must be some perfect data showing areas with fluoride in water

Medute

Mar 31, 12:53pm

I will disagree with your “dishonest” comment. Illness is illness

ATX

Mar 31, 2:27pm

Then it’s misleading. They miss school for viruses, not cavities

Medute

Mar 31, 4:31pm

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ATX

Mar 31, 5:15pm

There is also a question of fluoride lowering IQs

Oat'n'bow

Mar 31, 8:06pm

What AI did you use? Mind sharing your methodology and prompts?

Cosmos-beard-card

Mar 31, 8:36am

Grok. I used ChatGPT for a long time but found it to be inaccurate often

Medute

Mar 31, 8:57am

Did you provide the data for it to analyze or did you just reference it? This is

Cosmos-beard-card

Apr 2, 2:05pm

I mean 20% is a pretty significant reduction. You make it sound less by

ATX

Mar 31, 8:58am

To me the most interesting data is global

Medute

Mar 31, 9:38am

Developed countries have less fecal matter in the water?

ATX

Mar 31, 9:55am

I appreciate the replies. I enjoy these conversations

Medute

Mar 31, 10:23am

flouride isn't the only variable with those countries.

Spursnation

Mar 31, 2:14pm

That’s why that Swedish study is so nice

Medute

Mar 31, 4:33pm

Most confusing to me: why does a medical intervention like this belong in the

RoboKayne

Mar 31, 8:18pm

We didn’t put it there, Mother Nature put it there.

d-coug

Mar 31, 9:44pm

It should be noted that 1940 predates the use of fluoride in toothpaste

Medute

Mar 31, 10:05pm

Correct, and the target levels in water have been lowered since 1945

d-coug

Mar 31, 10:33pm

Might be true. Good business for the dentists though!

Medute

Mar 31, 10:38pm

Cleaning and filling brown mushy holes isn’t my favorite part of the job.

d-coug

Mar 31, 10:50pm

That's a very useful explanation. The fact that it occurs naturally and is one

RoboKayne

Apr 1, 8:09am

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