That's fair...A Sweet Sixteen will always be a big deal.

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Mar 26, 2025
6:35:06am

WVU_Prof Truly Addicted User

That's fair...A Sweet Sixteen will always be a big deal.

That said, I aligned a "great season" with any NCAA win under the old standard, which I think is a good season now. A first round exit is "meh," which we all kind of already felt last year by losing to Duquesne in the first round, which was before KY began working his magic and BYU invested heavily in NIL. So I think it's pretty accurate.

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We've all witnessed a very quick structural shift in BYU basketball

WVU_Prof

Mar 26, 3:41am

Crazy to see how fast a good coach can change the standards of a program,

CougarChaser

Mar 26, 3:57am

I think it's as much the $ as the coach that's changing the standards.

AFCougK9

Mar 26, 6:02am

RE: I think it's as much the $ as the coach that's changing the standards.

WVU_Prof

Mar 26, 6:38am

Dave Rose would’ve killed to have money for a couple extra studs no doubt

puntersarepeople

Mar 26, 7:57am

this more than anything

BYURider

Mar 26, 8:29am

And the coach is largely responsible for that as well. KY energized donor base.

ninja math

Mar 26, 9:33am

A good coach who likes being at BYU and who believes its standards work to his advantage.

roseyscenario

Mar 26, 6:41am

I generally agree, but this will be a great season even if we don't get to the elite 8.

CalGTR

Mar 26, 4:24am

*has been, IS

kiyoshige

Mar 26, 6:19am

Of course it's great...this is the season changing the standard.

WVU_Prof

Mar 26, 6:33am

I find your post both tautological and irritating.

Cswilliam01

Mar 26, 4:53am

Kevin Young may leave for more money, but

Hazzard

Mar 26, 5:58am

I think he is benefiting… but I also think he was a catalyst for the change more

Mar 26, 6:09am

Thanks - perfectly stated,

Cswilliam01

Mar 26, 6:18am

Herein lies some of the angst fans on here had with Pope

kiyoshige

Mar 26, 6:29am

Totally agree that KYoung plans to stay, expects to stay and it would take a

NYC and Japan

Mar 26, 6:54am

If you think that little of KY then you don’t understand the game,

Cswilliam01

Mar 26, 6:16am

I think Kevin Young is amazing

Hazzard

Mar 26, 1:10pm

Really bad take imo. College basketball has long been known as a "coaches game."

Roko's Basilisk

Mar 26, 7:59am

My post above was quick and simplified

Hazzard

Mar 26, 1:13pm

Kevin Young brought in his NBA people & his brother, his secret recruit weapon

Mabuhay Coug

Mar 26, 9:16am

Not at all. He’s the catalyst for all of it.

ninja math

Mar 26, 4:00pm

Nick Saban could have been poached by the NFL…but he is more famous and

BYUHgrad

Mar 26, 6:32am

KY has been huge, but the shift in program thinking is structural

WVU_Prof

Mar 26, 6:34am

Of tautology and superfluous verbosity

cb1kenobi

Mar 26, 8:13am

I can't stand a "proclivity for sesquipedalian circumlocution . . ."

85fan

Mar 26, 10:50am

If only there was a longer way of saying that.

Spine

Mar 26, 1:35pm

Regrettably, I have but one POTD to give

cajuncoug

Mar 26, 11:42am

10 million plus?? not yet. Maybe if he wins a couple of championships.

BYURider

Mar 26, 8:33am

I think we’ve found our legacy coach in KY. He clearly had the option to stay

TigermanCougarman

Mar 26, 10:18am

I only disagree about your last two

Mar 26, 5:26am

That's fair...A Sweet Sixteen will always be a big deal.

WVU_Prof

Mar 26, 6:35am

Sweet 16 is a great season...dead stop. Even with the current paradigm thinking

Fdnman

Mar 26, 5:31am

Point taken...I had trouble deciding where the line is between good/great.

WVU_Prof

Mar 26, 6:48am

I'm not quite there yet.

shoganai

Mar 26, 5:32am

I witnessed this same shift in expectations with Boise State Football fans.

coventry94

Mar 26, 6:17am

He makes a good point. ⬆️

Forest Green

Mar 26, 6:43am

Dang with the pointer and everything

TNT

Mar 26, 8:08am

RE: Dang with the pointer and everything

Forest Green

Mar 26, 8:36am

Haha. To be special season have to make final 4? Sweet 16 is only a good year, not great or special? This is just

yapacoug

Mar 26, 6:48am

I concede that the good to great line is probably too high.

WVU_Prof

Mar 26, 6:51am

I think BYU will (almost?) always accept NIT invitations. Coaches and players

NYC and Japan

Mar 26, 6:59am

Did you see the NIT lineup this year?

WVU_Prof

Mar 26, 7:03am

I still think BYU would accept the invitation and play

kC Cougar

Mar 26, 7:06am

Hard to say for sure. Its a different landscape than 3 years ago on that.

WVU_Prof

Mar 26, 7:12am

No I did not. Why would I even look, unless BYU was invited.

NYC and Japan

Mar 26, 7:13am

No data but has an opinion. You fit right in here!!!

cougsareforreal

Mar 26, 12:01pm

We'll see if the Crown event persists. TBD

Mar 26, 9:30am

Not quite there. This year is already Special Season - Top 3 - with S16.

refunder

Mar 26, 7:45am

I agree...we're still shifting from the old standards. This is a special year!

WVU_Prof

Mar 26, 3:46pm

And now they’ve changed the goal posts because we can’t compete. The $22MM cap

Q-grr

Mar 26, 9:50am

No, the $22M is from the school, it doesn’t limit the amount of outside NIL

cougsareforreal

Mar 26, 1:01pm

Little early to call it a structural shift

bjc

Mar 26, 10:29am

It's not a shift based on performance...it's based on underlying factors.

WVU_Prof

Mar 26, 3:50pm

You should do a poll. Not sure many would agree w/ your new standards for success.

BlooGeek

Mar 26, 10:51am

I think most people don't like the Elite 8 line...should have said Sweet 16.

WVU_Prof

Mar 26, 3:51pm

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