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Mar 26, 2025
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We've all witnessed a very quick structural shift in BYU basketball

WVU_Prof

Mar 26, 3:41am

Crazy to see how fast a good coach can change the standards of a program,

CougarChaser

Mar 26, 3:57am

I think it's as much the $ as the coach that's changing the standards.

AFCougK9

Mar 26, 6:02am

RE: I think it's as much the $ as the coach that's changing the standards.

WVU_Prof

Mar 26, 6:38am

Dave Rose would’ve killed to have money for a couple extra studs no doubt

puntersarepeople

Mar 26, 7:57am

this more than anything

BYURider

Mar 26, 8:29am

And the coach is largely responsible for that as well. KY energized donor base.

ninja math

Mar 26, 9:33am

A good coach who likes being at BYU and who believes its standards work to his advantage.

roseyscenario

Mar 26, 6:41am

I generally agree, but this will be a great season even if we don't get to the elite 8.

CalGTR

Mar 26, 4:24am

*has been, IS

kiyoshige

Mar 26, 6:19am

Of course it's great...this is the season changing the standard.

WVU_Prof

Mar 26, 6:33am

I find your post both tautological and irritating.

Cswilliam01

Mar 26, 4:53am

Kevin Young may leave for more money, but

Hazzard

Mar 26, 5:58am

I think he is benefiting… but I also think he was a catalyst for the change more

BoiseBlueCoug

Mar 26, 6:09am

Thanks - perfectly stated,

Cswilliam01

Mar 26, 6:18am

Herein lies some of the angst fans on here had with Pope

kiyoshige

Mar 26, 6:29am

Totally agree that KYoung plans to stay, expects to stay and it would take a

NYC and Japan

Mar 26, 6:54am

If you think that little of KY then you don’t understand the game,

Cswilliam01

Mar 26, 6:16am

I think Kevin Young is amazing

Hazzard

Mar 26, 1:10pm

Really bad take imo. College basketball has long been known as a "coaches game."

Roko's Basilisk

Mar 26, 7:59am

My post above was quick and simplified

Hazzard

Mar 26, 1:13pm

Kevin Young brought in his NBA people & his brother, his secret recruit weapon

Mabuhay Coug

Mar 26, 9:16am

Not at all. He’s the catalyst for all of it.

ninja math

Mar 26, 4:00pm

Nick Saban could have been poached by the NFL…but he is more famous and

BYUHgrad

Mar 26, 6:32am

KY has been huge, but the shift in program thinking is structural

WVU_Prof

Mar 26, 6:34am

Of tautology and superfluous verbosity

cb1kenobi

Mar 26, 8:13am

I can't stand a "proclivity for sesquipedalian circumlocution . . ."

85fan

Mar 26, 10:50am

If only there was a longer way of saying that.

Spine

Mar 26, 1:35pm

Regrettably, I have but one POTD to give

cajuncoug

Mar 26, 11:42am

10 million plus?? not yet. Maybe if he wins a couple of championships.

BYURider

Mar 26, 8:33am

I think we’ve found our legacy coach in KY. He clearly had the option to stay

TigermanCougarman

Mar 26, 10:18am

I only disagree about your last two

RexburgCougar

Mar 26, 5:26am

That's fair...A Sweet Sixteen will always be a big deal.

WVU_Prof

Mar 26, 6:35am

Sweet 16 is a great season...dead stop. Even with the current paradigm thinking

Fdnman

Mar 26, 5:31am

Point taken...I had trouble deciding where the line is between good/great.

WVU_Prof

Mar 26, 6:48am

I'm not quite there yet.

shoganai

Mar 26, 5:32am

I witnessed this same shift in expectations with Boise State Football fans.

coventry94

Mar 26, 6:17am

He makes a good point. ⬆️

Forest Green

Mar 26, 6:43am

Dang with the pointer and everything

TNT

Mar 26, 8:08am

RE: Dang with the pointer and everything

Forest Green

Mar 26, 8:36am

Haha. To be special season have to make final 4? Sweet 16 is only a good year, not great or special? This is just

yapacoug

Mar 26, 6:48am

I concede that the good to great line is probably too high.

WVU_Prof

Mar 26, 6:51am

I think BYU will (almost?) always accept NIT invitations. Coaches and players

NYC and Japan

Mar 26, 6:59am

Did you see the NIT lineup this year?

WVU_Prof

Mar 26, 7:03am

I still think BYU would accept the invitation and play

kC Cougar

Mar 26, 7:06am

Hard to say for sure. Its a different landscape than 3 years ago on that.

WVU_Prof

Mar 26, 7:12am

No I did not. Why would I even look, unless BYU was invited.

NYC and Japan

Mar 26, 7:13am

No data but has an opinion. You fit right in here!!!

cougsareforreal

Mar 26, 12:01pm

We'll see if the Crown event persists. TBD

Gentleman Stan

Mar 26, 9:30am

Not quite there. This year is already Special Season - Top 3 - with S16.

refunder

Mar 26, 7:45am

I agree...we're still shifting from the old standards. This is a special year!

WVU_Prof

Mar 26, 3:46pm

And now they’ve changed the goal posts because we can’t compete. The $22MM cap

Q-grr

Mar 26, 9:50am

No, the $22M is from the school, it doesn’t limit the amount of outside NIL

cougsareforreal

Mar 26, 1:01pm

Little early to call it a structural shift

bjc

Mar 26, 10:29am

It's not a shift based on performance...it's based on underlying factors.

WVU_Prof

Mar 26, 3:50pm

You should do a poll. Not sure many would agree w/ your new standards for success.

BlooGeek

Mar 26, 10:51am

I think most people don't like the Elite 8 line...should have said Sweet 16.

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