Hi. I think women associated with BYU and the LDS church are some of the best in the world. I am an all-girl dad; my wife and I raised our girls to be thoughtful LDS women. I wasn't attacking LDS women. In fact, that's probably why I made the mistake to post. I really appreciated JJCoug's response to my original post, as well. I don't think there was anything wrong and I shouldn't have even said anything. I have enough of my own issues to worry about. Sorry JJCoug. Honestly, my bad. I love that you were there screaming your guts out for the Cougs while I was sitting on my couch driving my whole house crazy as the lead was slipping away at the end.

Ezy - Your quote from Wiki only gives a small portion of the meaning to fit what you wanted to say in your post. It's like when someone quotes a scripture in church but leaves off half of the verse(s) to make it fit with their narrative or point. A full and thoughtful review certainly gives a more detailed and nuanced description. I'm not trying to prove anything, and everybody can do their own research and form their own opinion, but here's the first three paragraphs from Wikipedia (and the link for anybody interested in getting a bigger picture than a one-sentence or three-paragraph quote).

"Karen is a pejorative slang term typically used to refer to an upper middle-class white American woman who is perceived as entitled or excessively demanding.[1] The term is often portrayed in memes depicting middle-class white women who "use their white and class privilege to demand their own way".[1][2] Depictions include demanding to "speak to the manager", being racist, or wearing a particular bob cut hairstyle.[3] It was popularized in the aftermath of the Central Park birdwatching incident in 2020.[2]

The term has been considered pejorative by those who believe it is racist, sexist, ageist, classist, and controlling women's behavior.[3] The term has occasionally been applied to male behavior.[3][4]

During 2020, the term increasingly appeared in media and social media, including during the COVID-19 pandemic and George Floyd protests.[1] The Guardian called 2020 "the year of Karen".[5]"