A good ref says he is making a basketball play (splitting an aggressive trap)

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Mar 24, 2025
12:13:17pm

Still Blue Truly Addicted User

and therefore the contact to the groin is presumptively accidental

Very dumb to presume such contact is non accidental

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My understanding of the Baker Flagrant 2 Ejection

Skeptical Optimist Truly Addicted User

Mar 24, 11:50am

Incidental but not accidental is a distinction without a difference

Plato

Mar 24, 11:53am

You meant to strike out--just didn't mean to hit the guy where he got hit

byujdmba

Mar 24, 12:16pm

Right, your first line describes an accident

Plato

Mar 24, 12:39pm

You're still responsible under the law in my gun example.

byujdmba

Mar 24, 2:15pm

Using your analogy, the defender stepped in front of the gun. Truth.

Zerigke Ally Zerigke

Mar 24, 2:20pm

Correct. It works that way, too.

byujdmba

Mar 24, 5:56pm

I hate the imbedded response by Gene Steratore

HRCougar

Mar 24, 11:53am

yep, the problem with the whole premise is that it was non-incidental

cruiserhead

Mar 24, 12:05pm

I think he's saying that by the wording of the rule, they were kinda hamstrung and had to call it

Skeptical Optimist

Mar 24, 12:06pm

Agree to disagree. Blaming a poorly written rule (which it is) for tossing some

HRCougar

Mar 24, 12:13pm

The refs had a chance to right a wrong they made earlier in the game with Mag's dumb technical they called earlier..

greatbam

Mar 24, 3:08pm

I think the call on the Wisconsin bench was the makeup for Mag.

Eddie

Mar 24, 3:14pm

Ah ok. I'm not really remembering that one but I'll take your word for it.

greatbam

Mar 24, 3:31pm

The problem is that it was "clearly accidental". So the whole they had no choice but to call a

cruiserhead

Mar 24, 3:24pm

I agree. The standard is absurd

RealTaysomHill

Mar 24, 11:54am

It seems poorly written, but to me it was clearly accidental.

JuicyJam

Mar 24, 11:54am

And yet far more examples of forcible contact to the head and neck are re not deemed to be targeting

Littlerich

Mar 24, 11:56am

JT Toppin was ejected from the Texas Tech-Houston game for the same reason.

SG Blue

Mar 24, 11:58am

Guilty until proven innocent.

Sea Chicken

Mar 24, 11:58am

The defender clearly knew the rule and got his junk in position

Zerigke Ally Zerigke

Mar 24, 12:11pm

Let me help. It was clearly accidental. The standard is dumb, but it was clearly accidental. Play on. Ref got it wrong.

PJMort

Mar 24, 12:11pm

The rule was written for intentional nut shots like when a player swings his arm

westsidecoug

Mar 24, 12:12pm

I'll bet that is why the rule was written.

Eddie

Mar 24, 1:06pm

A good ref says he is making a basketball play (splitting an aggressive trap)

Still Blue

Mar 24, 12:13pm

Poorly written rule and consequence. Also, could have been deemed accidental,

Captain Stubing

Mar 24, 12:25pm

By this interpretation, nothing can be accidental

m1k3l33

Mar 24, 12:42pm

I think that's why it's such a poorly written rule

Skeptical Optimist

Mar 24, 12:52pm

It was interesting to read that Wisconsin had a player ejected earlier this...

Eddie

Mar 24, 1:01pm

That would explain the UW player sticking his groin out w/ his hands behind him.

ldssdl

Mar 24, 1:03pm

Evidence to support your claim:

Dr MoBYU

Mar 24, 3:25pm

RE: Evidence to support your claim:

Eddie

Mar 24, 3:45pm

His crotch was in the offensive player's cylinder

byuod

Mar 24, 5:35pm

RE: His crotch was in the offensive player's cylinder

Eddie

Mar 24, 5:42pm

Taking one for the team?

Blue Heart

Mar 24, 4:47pm

yet they dismiss shots to the head quite often

Count Cougar

Mar 24, 1:16pm

Traore was hit in the face which should have been a flagrant 1. Our review guys missed that.

jre85

Mar 24, 2:00pm

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cruiserhead

Mar 24, 2:12pm

If that’s the rule you shouldn’t be able to trap

SBB

Mar 24, 2:13pm

Seems like common sense is lacking.

tkh9

Mar 24, 3:16pm

Also,the dude stuck his junk out. As seen in this photo

Dr MoBYU

Mar 24, 3:24pm

"You put your crotch in my face, here's an elbow from me,"

Accipiter

Mar 24, 3:58pm

The only reason you would have your hands down and be leaning slightly back with

Agaricus

Mar 24, 4:21pm

Do refs see slow motion of plays on the review? If this video was regular speed

ShellieCooper

Mar 24, 3:38pm

Rolling around, writhing in pain — was that NOT "clearly accidental" too refs??

SinkingQuffa

Mar 24, 3:58pm

It was clearly accidental. Didn’t even look at him and made a bball play

BYU '80

Mar 24, 4:27pm

His crotch was in Baker's offensive cylinder

byuod

Mar 24, 5:38pm

RE: His crotch was in Baker's offensive cylinder

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