Yes, or - Steve Young's term - a "swashbuckler."

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Retzlaff 2024 autopsy

mjmill All-American

12/30/24 10:56pm

That was a clear trend in RTG

Boring

12/30/24 10:58pm

Especially when you order them from high to low

Greg Kite's 'stache

12/30/24 11:07pm

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wjman11

12/30/24 11:42pm

Really bad end to season. Add in last year and he is horrible in November.

88Coug

12/30/24 10:59pm

Yes, very disappointing that his final 4 games were all in his bottom 5 performances this season

mjmill

12/30/24 11:01pm

Correction: @ASU was a top 5 game for him. Nov/Dec all games poor except ASU

mjmill

12/30/24 11:08pm

I think he struggles in cold weather

Jericho

12/30/24 11:23pm

Late season issues may be durability.

88Coug

12/30/24 11:44pm

I think he and most players struggle when injured

johnnybyu

12/30/24 11:54pm

QB development by AROD or J. Beck?

VB2

12/31/24 9:27am

In season development also faces challenge of competition scouting and counterin

Hammurabi

12/31/24 9:35am

We have a QB coach and it isn't ARod

Jericho

12/31/24 11:21am

They said he was not healthy in Nov, which makes sense.Co was nerves & Hunter

Mabuhay Coug

12/31/24 9:56am

OL injuries made a huge difference

Hammurabi

12/31/24 10:10am

Read the order wrong

CSoul

12/30/24 11:08pm

KSU and UCF were both after Wyoming game

mjmill

12/30/24 11:09pm

Sorry, glancing I was looking at it chronologically. Whoops.

CSoul

12/30/24 11:10pm

How many fumbles did he have?

Magneto

12/30/24 11:15pm

This team had an incredible defense and very average offense

Chefcurry

12/30/24 11:19pm

Per FEI - 35th offensively, 19th defensively.

wjman11

12/30/24 11:44pm

No more interviews untill learns to hit open targets

fan32

12/31/24 8:28am

He has room to grow. Lets hope he improves again

Jericho

12/30/24 11:23pm

I remember back in the day when Paul James would keep track of consecutive pass completions during games. I think…

Brisco

12/30/24 11:23pm

I think JR had 14 vs KState

puntersarepeople

12/30/24 11:26pm

Thanks. That’s impressive, obviously.

Brisco

12/30/24 11:29pm

Yeah I would like to see how his ADOT compares to others

JuicyJam

12/30/24 11:27pm

Let’s hope his YoY improvement takes another step next year

Hammurabi

12/30/24 11:33pm

Yeah, if he can complete over 60% next year we’ll be in great shape. I worry whether he’ll improve in the red zone—

Brisco

12/30/24 11:43pm

2 Things - Jake's quick feet and quick release are elite which are essential

johnnybyu

12/30/24 11:48pm

He sustains a lot of drives with his feet and getting the ball out to avoid sack

Hammurabi

12/30/24 11:59pm

*Miserable double digit season with at least a very good QB and well above ave O

NYC and Japan

12/31/24 7:23am

Would loke to know how many drops the receivers had. Lassiter had at least one or two per game.

ManicBlue

12/30/24 11:48pm

I’m not sure we had more bad drops than usual. I could be wrong of course.

Brisco

12/30/24 11:50pm

What we did is play a much more difficult schedule than usual. No QB has done

johnnybyu

12/30/24 11:51pm

To me we had 1-2 simple “look it into your hands” drops a game. More than

Hammurabi

12/31/24 12:00am

Lassiter was great at times, but definitely got ft ball version of the yips.

Mabuhay Coug

12/31/24 10:02am

I usually saw one drop a game. But caught the tough ones.

Hammurabi

12/31/24 10:11am

Yup, seemed to be one early then he was money.

ManicBlue

12/31/24 10:32am

Hmm, that’s no bueno. 57.9% completion and only 1.6 TD to INT ratio? Yikes 😬

Coug-Ida

12/31/24 12:28am

2004 John Beck (same age and stage in BYU experience) was 55.4% and a 1.8 TD/INT

oxcoug

12/31/24 3:07am

Interesting. Wouldn’t have thought Beck’s stats that low JR year. Gives me hope.

Coug-Ida

12/31/24 10:15am

2004 was Sophomore year for Beck. He improved in 2005 as a Junior and

dfudge

12/31/24 10:32am

That’s right. Retzlaff Made a ahaky jump from juco last year and played the

Hammurabi

12/31/24 12:24pm

Red zone interceptions were bad - ZW and Jaren were nails in the red zone

Rhubarb

12/31/24 12:50am

level of competition different ?

franklyvulgar

12/31/24 2:36am

This gets massively underrated as a factor - 11 of Jake's 13 opponents this year

oxcoug

12/31/24 3:28am

During their first year starting, or later, after a few more games started under

jaba166

12/31/24 3:09am

Look at 2nd year starter data and SOS

Hammurabi

12/31/24 6:11am

* led team to 11 wins.

HugoStiglitz

12/31/24 12:55am

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asdf1986

12/31/24 1:09am

Colorado game might be what the doctor ordered for Jake

cajuncoug

12/31/24 2:30am

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ninja math

12/31/24 2:46am

While all those things would be great, I'd throw out the stats to a large degree

jaba166

12/31/24 3:08am

He’s a riverboat gambler. More slants, swing passes to RB. TE over the middle …

jpal1397

12/31/24 6:03am

Yes, or - Steve Young's term - a "swashbuckler."

oxcoug

12/31/24 8:13am

Ask other coaches if they enjoyed playing against him? He has a quick release,

Hammurabi

12/31/24 8:37am

He shouldn’t take so many shots downfield. He’s very inaccurate downfield

BYU '80

12/31/24 6:08am

Earlier in the year he was solid deep. Wonder if injury affected his long ball?

Hammurabi

12/31/24 6:13am

Not sure but after the start of the year he couldn’t hit anybody long

BYU '80

12/31/24 6:19am

He was still acccurate on quick posts and deep outs, but struggled on go routes

Hammurabi

12/31/24 6:26am

That long touchdown pass to JoJo Phillips in the SIU game was an

gopman

12/31/24 7:14am

It was something like 4 completed passes over 30 yards in the air all year. Not

88Coug

12/31/24 7:23am

He was still throwing nice deep balls vs Ok State. After that he was bad

puntersarepeople

12/31/24 9:58am

Got nicked up at Utah game

Hammurabi

12/31/24 10:23am

He made a tackle on a pick right before halftime against Ok State and got hurt.

dfudge

12/31/24 10:33am

Sarkisian and Beck both had a lot of starts by the end of their Junior years

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