Ok. What is going on today. Why do fans seem compelled to accept random post opinions as fact? What do you really know

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Dec 18, 2024
11:40:55am

PJMort All-American

Ok. What is going on today. Why do fans seem compelled to accept random post opinions as fact? What do you really know

about Kalani, about Arod, about recruiting?

Here is what we do know. The team went 10-2 this year and is going to a great bowl-- after a year when people were distraugth over the lack of portal recruiting. Still, here we are, debating "what is wrong with this coaching staff's recruiting" when we should be discussing how well this coaching staff did this year.

Bunch of malcontents.

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PJMort

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Time

Saying you can’t gel as a team bringing in portal transfers is non-sense.

Lombardi

Dec 18, 11:31am

Kalani isn't the most proactive coach around

TNT

Dec 18, 11:32am

Do you really believe that's THE reason for BYU's relatively low portal activity in 2024?

Underhill

Dec 18, 11:35am

That’s a non-sequitur. Still have 85 scholarships and portal guys…

Lombardi

Dec 18, 11:45am

Kalani is not the guy who is going to tirelessly outwork all of the other coaches around him

kimdaddy35

Dec 18, 11:37am

Pretty good summary

TNT

Dec 18, 11:37am

but what's interesting about that is he was billed as a GREAT recruiter

Mayor of Cougartown

Dec 18, 11:40am

That's why it is so disappointing

TNT

Dec 18, 11:40am

Yeah, but if my life were judged on all of the things my mom thought I was going

Nakedbootleg

Dec 18, 11:43am

He is being paid a lot of money

TNT

Dec 18, 11:49am

It is pretty crazy that his purported biggest strength has turned out to be his greatest

kimdaddy35

Dec 18, 11:43am

Recruiting has fundamentally changed with NIL + transfer portal.

proudcugr

Dec 18, 11:46am

It has and that is fortunate for Sitake has he has done better with this model.

kimdaddy35

Dec 18, 11:49am

I think he is a great recruiter, maybe not a great closer

palangi

Dec 18, 11:50am

The issue is big donors don’t trust KS

vegas guey

Dec 18, 11:56am

How much of that is you connecting dots to match your preconceived notions?

Dec 18, 11:40am

It's eight years of watching

TNT

Dec 18, 11:41am

By watching you mean?

Dec 18, 11:43am

Oh brother

TNT

Dec 18, 11:49am

He's right

OldFogey

Dec 18, 1:02pm

Lol. No he's not.

gopman

Dec 18, 2:39pm

RE: Lol. No he's not.

OldFogey

Dec 18, 4:36pm

It is all based on experiences and results.

kimdaddy35

Dec 18, 11:48am

So connecting the dots

Dec 18, 11:52am

So only those who are LITERALLY in the room can have an opinion?

gopman

Dec 18, 12:00pm

You can have an opinion on the results, where did I say you couldn’t?

Dec 18, 12:02pm

Again, does one have to be in the room to have an opinion?

gopman

Dec 18, 2:46pm

Again to have an opinion on the results? No. To have an opinion on the process

Dec 18, 2:55pm

You can tell the process is bad because of the results.

gopman

Dec 18, 5:14pm

So going 10-2 is their fruits…does that mean they did recruiting right even if

Dec 18, 6:02pm

We still go after plenty of big recruits. Your assumption is 100% wrong.

kimdaddy35

Dec 18, 12:15pm

I feel like he targets recruits he thinks he can get rather than every big star

Dec 18, 12:27pm

LOL, he offered like 2 guys in 8th grade. Who we are going after has not changed one iota

kimdaddy35

Dec 18, 12:33pm

I think these two articles list 7

Dec 18, 12:42pm

LOL, they list 5 and one of them was Bronco's recruit. But nice try.

kimdaddy35

Dec 18, 12:52pm

RE: LOL, they list 5 and one of them was Bronco's recruit. But nice try.

Dec 18, 12:59pm

RE: I think these two articles list 7

Dec 18, 12:58pm

I love your lack of rationality. Let's agree the number is 6. Sitake offered about 500

kimdaddy35

Dec 18, 1:17pm

What 8th graders has he offered recently? Where is 500 coming from?

Dec 18, 1:33pm

So you are claiming that before he went after ones he knew he couldn't get?

kimdaddy35

Dec 18, 1:43pm

Yes he just didn’t know it at the time and now he has a better idea.

Dec 18, 1:51pm

According to 247 BYU has already offered 98 for the class of 2025.

kimdaddy35

Dec 18, 2:05pm

Asked and answered

Dec 18, 2:08pm

Your answer is in direct contradiction with facts.

kimdaddy35

Dec 18, 3:54pm

I think you need to read more carefully.

Dec 18, 3:57pm

lol, you have tried to skirt the contradiction this whole time.

kimdaddy35

Dec 18, 3:58pm

It wasn’t just 8th graders. It was a number of 8th and 9th graders he went all

Dec 18, 4:02pm

You claim the big donors are holding back because they don’t believe in him.

Dec 18, 11:56am

For example... Kalani sat in a recruits living room after Ty was fired and said

1984coug

Dec 18, 12:30pm

I should add though that unlike many other coaches Kalani will treat their son like family

kimdaddy35

Dec 18, 11:42am

IIRC Retzlaff said he didn't even meet Kalani until he was signed and on campus

byubyu

Dec 18, 11:57am

This happened with Bronco to an extent... I remember an OL say that Bronco

1984coug

Dec 18, 12:31pm

Really, really odd.

kimdaddy35

Dec 18, 2:06pm

I was wondering how long it would take CB to go after Kalani again

Dec 18, 2:23pm

Ok. What is going on today. Why do fans seem compelled to accept random post opinions as fact? What do you really know

PJMort

Dec 18, 11:40am

That team brings back their starting RB, QB, and potentially WR1.

Dec 18, 11:45am

They are disappointed we missed on positions of need and guys we know

Dec 18, 11:47am

Because games are won and lost in the trenches

TNT

Dec 18, 11:49am

Yep and BYU won far more than most

NYC and Japan

Dec 18, 2:32pm

we need a better rb and most positions tbh

Deleted

Dec 18, 11:50am

Amazing that this great season has produced zero good will for Kalani and Co.

Dec 18, 12:00pm

The number 1 rule of online forums

Dec 18, 12:04pm

RE: The number 1 rule of online forums

Dec 18, 12:09pm

I think you're mistaking a lack of complacency for a lack of good will.

russkiejedi

Dec 18, 12:38pm

It's been about 20 days or so since our last game. Still have a good one to go.

Dec 18, 1:34pm

And what respect do you think he has earned? That people should pretend he does

russkiejedi

Dec 18, 2:49pm

RE: And what respect do you think he has earned? That people should pretend he

Dec 19, 8:50am

Lamenting portal recruiting when players are still able to join and most good

NYC and Japan

Dec 18, 2:31pm

FSU went into the portal and it is going to cost Norvell his job if they aren't

1984coug

Dec 18, 11:57am

BYU has navigated the portal better than most.

Dec 18, 12:11pm

RE: Saying you can’t gel as a team bringing in portal transfers is

socorny

Dec 18, 12:46pm

AJ Dybantsa and Egor Demin were both amazing transfer portal pickups. Football

boctabulous

Dec 18, 3:34pm

Which coach is downplaying the portal? The ones I listen to say if it’s a need

niqmadu

Dec 18, 4:18pm

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