We still have younger kids, and the 3rd-row in every SUV is just difficult to get in & out of, so the minivan (with its lower to the ground profile) is a better option for us at the moment.

And we also looked at & test drove a Toyota Sienna, which my wife actually liked better and wanted to buy, but Brent Brown Toyota in Orem tried to tack on a $6,000 'market adjustment' fee on top of the more expensive price, so we went with a 2022 Odyssey.